Venezolano Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 Hello people, Actually i'm practicing BJJ and i thought crosstrain in Judo to improve my takedowns and standup game, but i'm not sure if Judo be a good idea. This is why i think it, i want something that can work in a real life situation, and i'm doubtness about Judo and Wrestling, was wondering how many porcent of Judo throws are gi's dependent. 2.) in how many time aprox one can be pro efficient? (in the basics) 3.- In adults, belts go: white-> brown -> black? any other suggestions would be appreciated. Valencia - Venezuela.
TJS Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 alot of judo throws can be adapted to suite Gi less fights but honetly i dont think anyone has better takedowns than wrestling I have heard stories about Wrestler with Zero judo experience entering and winning Judo torunament by smaling them all with double legs.
Karateka_latino Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 Judo Throws can be performed without the GI, just you need to train without the Gi and figure out how to do the Grips and stuff. I think the 90% of Judo throws can be performed without the GI. The problems is, not too many people train the Throws without the GI, they stick to the Rules. To be good at basics depends on how much and how hard you train. When i was in Judo the belts for adults were: white, Yellow, blue, green, brown, black...
jmy77 Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 To expand on the question... Can't judo throws (with Gi) be applied to anyone wearing a jacket or shirt? Or are Judo throws that specific to person wearing something as strong as a gi? "Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft." - Pres. Theodore Roosevelt "You don't have to like it, you just have to do it." - Captain Richard Marcinko, USN, Ret."Do more than what is required of you." - General George S. Patton"If you have to step on someone else to stand tall, then you truely are a small person." - ?
Venezolano Posted April 12, 2003 Author Posted April 12, 2003 I guess that Judo can help me more in my sport BJJ, and Wrestling more in a real life, but i'm not sure. Also, i was wondering what are the things that a person has to have to be a good wrestler, they have to be very strong? Valencia - Venezuela.
TJS Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 I guess that Judo can help me more in my sport BJJ, and Wrestling more in a real life, but i'm not sure. Also, i was wondering what are the things that a person has to have to be a good wrestler, they have to be very strong? If it sport grappling judo might be good choice but in general yes Wrestlers as usually pretty strong.
SevenStar Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 I agree pretty much with what's been said here. Judo can be modified for no gi, but wrestling does have excellent takedowns. Judo has equivalents to some of them, morote gari as a double leg, but I like the wrestling double leg better. ko soto gake is essentially a single leg.
Venezolano Posted April 12, 2003 Author Posted April 12, 2003 Ok thanks... in how many time (aprox) one can be pro efficient? (with the basics) that one can do some throws? Valencia - Venezuela.
dark_adjudication Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 In the judo competitions I have been in, alot of the Judoka would, as soon as the match started, push their sleeves up and pull their gi out from their belt making it harder to take up the slack. Most hip throws can be done by slipping an arm around their waist, maby grabbing their belt or waist band. Sacrifice throws can be done by grabbing under the arm and behind the neck. Most street clothes will rip if you grab and pull them. Coats and jean jackets being the exception. A hand full of skin or hair works wonders for off balancing and throwing. Go down to B&N bookstore and get a book on Chin Na for some more ideas. "There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, 'To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time.' " Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
SevenStar Posted April 12, 2003 Posted April 12, 2003 Ok thanks... in how many time (aprox) one can be pro efficient? (with the basics) that one can do some throws? That would all depend on you... there are lifting throws, sweepeing throws, sacrifice throws, pickups, takedowns, etc... and different people excel at different groups of throws and learn them at different rates... That's a question that I really can't answer
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