JohnnyS Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I did private lessons with my BJJ instructor who lived over 1000 kilometers away. I decided I'd go to a TJJ school because that was the closest thing (I thought). I didn't go in there with an attitude of "getting into a fight", I just wanted to work on what I'd been training. I did the class and at the end asked if anyone would do some grappling. When I finished the brown and black belt I was given a lecture from the instructor telling me I needed to learn 300 throws(or something ridiculous) before doing groundwork. I also went to Judo schools with a similar result but they were extremely friendly. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOILOI44 Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Johnny I guess we look for different things in a martial art. For me it's about being able to defend myself, and a form of exercise both physical and mental. I don't have the need to prove myself constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 It wasn't about proving myself better than anyone else, it was about wanting to continue doing groundwork. These people claimed to do groundwork so I went there to train. It's as simple as that. I was very polite the whole time. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MawashiGeri60 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 wat does tjj and bjj stand for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I would say if you want to learn groundwork study BJJ like you are doing. JJ is not focused on the ground only, it's a more complete art that focuses more on getting the attacker to the ground. It has ground work, but not as evolved as BJJ. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 TJJ = Traditional Jujutsu BJJ = Brazilian Jujutsu FYI: JJJ = Japanese Jujutsu GJJ = Gracie Jujutsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 And BJJ = GJJ, unless you ask Rorion BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 GJJ is but one style of BJJ. Another prominent style is Machados JJ. But there are lots of BJJ styles, GJJ just happened to be the one that came to the spotlight first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 It's an annoying argument, because Rigan Machado was taught by Rolls and Carlos Gracie Jnr, as well as training with Rickson and his brothers. So why would Machado BJJ be any different to what Royce or Rickson is doing? Each fighter will have his own style, for example Rigan Machado's game is very different to Jean-Jacque Machado's style, but it's all still BJJ. The Machado's originally called their art Carlos Gracie Jnr Jiu-Jitsu, but had to change the name after Rorion threatened to sue them, so they called it Machado BJJ. There was actually no such thing as BJJ until the Brazilian's came to America to teach and found out that Rorion would sue them if they used the name Gracie, so they instead called it Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Sure, but they have been doing their own thing since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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