FistsOfFury Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I want to talk about grappling and dance! On the old argument of that Wing Chun doesn't have any grappling. A lot of schools don't teach grappling and if you ask why not/what if you get into a headlock, the simple reply is "you should never get into that situation in the first place". I didn;t think this was an appropriate response, whilst I do not think that arts such as ju-jitsu are very effective, especially their contention that "95% of fights end up on the ground", i do find some things they have are good. I cross trained with a jujitsu instructor and covered some of the syllabus, mainly forward/backward rolls, how to fall if thrown. These have proven very useful. A Wing Chun artist cannot go around thinking that they will never be thrown down, or maybe they might need to escape with a back roll. I have practiced these rolls and falls to be in line with the centre line principle and find them to be effective in suprising people! On dance, I watched breakdancers and was impressed by their moves. Recently we have taken this to heart and tried to incorporate breakdancing with Wing Chun. So far it is kind of working! IF someone throwns a punch, we can simply appear to collapse to the ground and swivel and sweep the person from their feet with a low kick! It takes everyone by suprise. I would love to hear of peoples modifications and new weird stuff to try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 whilst I do not think that arts such as ju-jitsu are very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Breakdancing is a complete contrary to Wing Chun. First of all, its not even a martial art. Wing Chun is based upon effectiveness, and shortest distance attacks. Breakdancing isn't even a MA, but if you incorporate some of its moves into a fight I fail to see how these conserve energy, time, or distance. JackCurrently 'off' from formal MA trainingKarateForums.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Ng Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 How about moonwalking plus wing chun? You can appear like you're chasing your opponent with chain punches when you're really beating a hasty retreat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingchunner Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 what Wing Chun is if you are doing what you said you have done. I did break dancing as a youth and I can tell you that most things are opposite to the theories of Wing Chun. Your martial arts skill must be a joke. Marty Martin Yoderhttp://wingchunner.tripod.comhttp://www.immortalpalm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistsOfFury Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 Mother of God! You got the wrong end of the stick! Were not turning into dancing faggots! All we have done is just incorporate some of the spin and falls, were just experimenting. How does this reflect on our martial arts skills? Is it such a crime to experiment? When we fight, we don't start dancing, we still adhere to the WC core, we just introduced some spin and falls for laffs. You people need to chill a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuLuvva Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 haha i dont think people understood your intentions on that one. i mean you where just joking right? age:16style:wing chunDon't try to predict the outcome of a fight. just let nature take its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 If you belive Jiu Jitsu isint effective but Break dancing can be then i think you should seriously evaluate your entire thinking of the MA world here are some realistic choices... Jiu Jitsu Wrestling Sambo Judo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuLuvva Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 do you know anything about sambo? all i know is that it is a russian ground fighting system. age:16style:wing chunDon't try to predict the outcome of a fight. just let nature take its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 even if it was a joke.... I wouldn't have shared that one... Anyway, Sambo is basically russian judo. It has a lot of throws but the flavor is a little different and they allow leg locks, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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