Boxing VS. Aikido

[Tombstone]

Both are great and both can be effective. My question is how well can Aikido defend against a jab?

[King of Fighters]

I think both styles are good but i think that a boxer could beat an akido fighter because akido is more of an internal style ment for meditation, building of ki and self defence, while boxing is a ring sport that uses raw power, timing and speed for the purpose of destroying an opponant

[Kensai]

Well.......

 

I have always said that the better man would win the day.

 

But if we are talking strictly about techniques:

 

Firstly, I think 100 hours of Aikido training Vs 100 hours of Boxing, NO QUESTION the boxer is going to destroy him. However, 1000 hours of AIkido Vs 1000 hours of boxing would be much more interesting.

 

I think Boxers in general train more or less the same way. very hard and very physical.

 

Aikido can vary greatly from dojo to dojo and person to person. Some train just in the dojo, what I mean by that is its like a hobby and nothing more.

 

To some, its a method of gaining a good level of health and mental calmness.

 

And to others like myself, its a passion and a quest to understand both the physical and spiritual side of the art. Not only training in the dojo, but trying what works against non Aikido attacks. And a certain degree of Cross training, then applying Aikido principles to it.

 

For an Aikido practioner to do well, strictly using Aikido, I think they would have to train hard against bokken and jo welding attackers, for the simple reason that each hit could kill you (potentially) and I think that applies to a boxers punch/jab/cross/hook.

 

Also, I think the Aikido practioner would have to be able to "blend" with the attacks very well, and not to try and "box a boxer". They need to enter deeply to retain control of the boxers arms when going for a throw or pin. Not being afraid to apply lots of Atemi to not nessessarily hurt the boxer, but to make him think that the attacks are strikes, whick you would then change to the powerful throw.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[TJS]

I have heard Aikido does not have any real defense for a the Jab simply because it's not a power punch....not sure how that works..but like i said thats just what i heard.

[Karateka_latino]

It's not easy to defend against a good "jabber", it can be confusing and frustrating.

 

I think the best shot an Aikido stylist have is to learn how to not been caught with jabs.

 

Also, the Aikidoka needs to learn how to move. Not just to stay there waiting for a raw attack. if you get static against a good boxer trying to catch there blows, you'll be dead meat.

[Kensai]

I agree with both of you. However, a good Aikidoka would maintain what is called "ma ai" or distancing. The aim of this is the make the boxer or whatever, over commit the attack, and so having less balance. I think some boxers actually do something similar called "rope a doping".

 

Also, Aikido is about being dynamic, waiting to catch a strike is exactly what Aikido is not about.

[kle1n]

i dont see why an irimi nage shouldnt work for example if the aikidoka ist quick enough cause a boxer is really the perfect person to do an irimi nage on.

[Treebranch]

If both were equally skilled in their art at the higher levels. The boxer would have to be the attacker, and the aikido guy would be receiving the attack. The aikido guy would simply stay away from the jab until the boxer commits to a real punch, in order to off balance him to throw the boxer to the ground. Most aikido guys don't pick fights and don't attack first. I don't think the outcome can be easily predicted.

[JerryLove]

I would think the most obvious Akido cuonter to a boxer jabbing would be to either run away (how's that for blending) or to sweep.

 

Course, it depends heavily on style of Akido.

[superleeds]

can someone explain what a jab is?