Sparring methods for combative arts.

[TJS]

because you like i said when people are sparring Full contact as in the same way you would in a fight your techniques gets sloppy...you usually have to slow down occasionally and foucus on it if you want it to be there when you pick it back up.

 

No I didn't, you did. I said work on technique while going hard, not do them seperate.

 

so if someone has been learning technique for a year or two but has never sparred...you belive if you put them in there their first time and said go at it 100% that their technique would be there? no..they would need to slow down some and get used to it then build their way up to full contact.

[JerryLove]

Why automatically resort to biting and eye gouging? If that is all you can do you've waisted a lot of time and money on useless training.

Why automatically resort to elbows? If that's all you can do you've waisted a lot of time and money on useless training.

Elbow blocks are fine, the rest are not keeping it friendly. They are also not things any trained fighter should ever need to resort to against an untrained fighter. And since the only trained fighters you will be likely to fight will be fighting you on friendly terms there really is no need for them.

Ok mr Kent, I think this sums up the fundimental difference in our training right there. Since athletes don't do it that way (wrestling is taught in slow technique as well as free sparring), and since you are not training with a very realistic outlook, I understand why your opinion is so skewed.

 

Under your logic, since I am going to shoot them anyway, martial training at all is wasted effort.

 

And why do you believe I "resort" to things that are a normal part of my repituae.

 

BTW, can you beat 2 people? Can you beat 5? 10?

 

When you hit that threshold, do you think a larget array of techniques *might* move it up another person? Are you sure that no terrorist that wants to blow up your plane, no jealous boyfriend, no serial killer, no annoyed drunk, and no muggers what-so-ever have trained?

 

You fight half-assed if you want, you assume that anyone you fight will be alone, unarmed, and incompitent... I will not.

[AndrewGreen]

so if someone has been learning technique for a year or two but has never sparred...you belive if you put them in there their first time and said go at it 100% that their technique would be there? no..they would need to slow down some and get used to it then build their way up to full contact.

 

First I'd want to know why after a year or two they hadn't sparred

[AndrewGreen]

Jerrylove,

 

I suggest you seek counselling for your paranoia.

[TJS]

so if someone has been learning technique for a year or two but has never sparred...you belive if you put them in there their first time and said go at it 100% that their technique would be there? no..they would need to slow down some and get used to it then build their way up to full contact.

 

First I'd want to know why after a year or two they hadn't sparred

 

It was simply an example..do you have people sparr full contact the 1st day of class?

[JerryLove]

I suggest you seek counselling for your paranoia.

I'm not paranoid... that's just a rumor my enemies spread about me

[AndrewGreen]

It was simply an example..do you have people sparr full contact the 1st day of class?

 

To some extent yes, just not with all the tools.

[Synaesthesia]

Why automatically resort to biting and eye gouging? If that is all you can do you've waisted a lot of time and money on useless training.

 

Elbow blocks are fine, the rest are not keeping it friendly. They are also not things any trained fighter should ever need to resort to against an untrained fighter. And since the only trained fighters you will be likely to fight will be fighting you on friendly terms there really is no need for them.

 

I don't care how powerful you are, using the most deadly weapons available is well worth your time in a serious fight. The fact that you don't think a martial artist would ever need to resort to such "mean" techniques suggests to me that you seriously underestimate how dangerous 1. Larger 2.Armed 3.Multiple 4.Experienced opponents can be.

 

The reality is that people are going to try to take you on their own terms. Give me maybe four decent sized, highly aggressive punks and maybe five hours and they could probably take down most trained fighters - particularly those not willing to fight dirty.

[TJS]

i think techniques like that should be the icing on the cake...as in you should know technique without them...they are just an added bonus.

[JerryLove]

No one has argued that those should be the sole of your skill... I certainly have not. Such techniques are just like any other randomly chosen techniques... part of a repituae that, in whole, hopefully lets you survive.