Karateka Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 I forgot all about Michelle! She is the bomb, and she ain't a bad looker either. To Angus, Bruce Lee did not like traditional Karate. He also did not like Kumite on its glorified tag. He constantly put down the sport. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 I must agree with Bruce Lee about karate and kumite. Hehhe. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 Really Thaiboxerken? I have been in both Karate and Kickboxing. I can tell you there are far worse injuries in Karate than kickboxing. In kickboxing you have impact injuries. In Karate you have broken bones, dislocations, injuries that take months even years to heal. Since you are a thai boxer, I respect your style for what it is worth. I still believe that Karate Kumite is still better. My opinion of course. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 could it be the level and number of injuries is due to a lack of skill? THere are more rules in Kumite than in Muay Thai or MMA competition. More weapons means there must be more skill. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 The injuries come from blocking and striking. I have had many the injury in my time just from blocking these techniques. Not from lack of skill, from power. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 I think point-sparring injuries actually happen because of the lack of contact in the sport. Muay Thai boxers are used to getting hit, grabbed and smashed, as well as MMA fighters. Kumite practitioners don't have this kind of conditioning, therefore if and accident happens (IE someone actually punches hard), then there are injuries. Point sparring people wouldn't last in a Muay Thai or MMA event, and Thaiboxers and MMA fighters would get disqualified from Kumite. 2 different animals. I like to see fights, not karate tournaments. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 Actually, Karate practitionars can take a lot of abuse. Believe me, I know. I think, however, that we could go on and on about the way we fight. How about we call a truce and actually talk about the other actors out there. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 Yea, like how much Van Damme and Steven Seagal sucks. These punks aren't even close to being real fighters. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Greer Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 Van Damme, I hear, was a Ballet practitioner, which accounts for any amount of skill he has. Of course, Chan was an acrobat before he entered into martial arts, as were a lot of other's. I don't get the impression that Van Damme ever really touched on anything realistic though. Chan is at least fun to watch and I can see talent there, or the potential for real fighting skills.. he's just crazy enough, fast enough and coordinated enough to be a decent fighter, I think. Speaking of poor martial artists that beat their wive's, other than Van Damme, Sasha Mitchell comes to mind. What a weenie that guy is. How do these people get cast as fighters? At least Crouching Tiger had a good story line, even if it was all fluff... a very good movie anyway. Regards,Tim Greer -> admin@chatbase.com | Phone: 530-222-7244I study any and every style and I'm always looking to spar!!Also, if I'm not around for a while, I'm just away training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Van Damme's ONLY martial arts experience is a black belt in Shotokan Karate. Steven S. is actually a 7th degree black belt in Aikido, but his skills have withered, and so has his sadly overweight body. Jackie Chan trained in a Chinese Opera school. It combined traditional kung-fu with singing, acting, gymnastics. etc. His biography is an excellent book, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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