self trained, self empowered

[fireka]

thanks for everyones input thus far, i need much more though. yea, ive heard the whole make a deal thing before though to, i just honestly dont see that sticking, remeber i have a job, one that takes up probably to much of my time so staying after to clean the dojo probably isnt an option. Also SMR thanks for your help, thats easy but theres a problem, i dont know what the diffrence is between what you just said, and a middle level thrust punch.

[omnifinite]

How are you going to know what the katas are for? Even people with instructors are very lucky to learn that these days.

[fireka]

thats very true, but like you said, even ppl with instructors have trouble learning that, they still do okay, ill survive. but thats also one of the reasons im here, to grow off the knoladge you dojo trained fighters already have

 

 

 

[NinjaMaster]

You cant do it. If you learn from a book.

 

You cant do much from a book.

 

You cant even drive a car from a book.

 

You sure are motivated but its misguided and art in martial art is not like painting or music.

 

There is art to driving a car.

 

It means reaching a point where you are no longer being drriven but are in complete control.

 

It refers to the level of skill involved. Not the way it does in painting and music which is an expression of self. Martial artsd are not that they are for fighting.

[bustr]

This guy recieved his black belt after teaching himself.

 

http://www.oakknolls.com/jeffmartinez.htm

[NinjaMaster]

Anyone can get a black belt. Sorry but its true.

 

You cant fight just because you have a black belt.

 

Who is going to correct his mistakes.

 

He cant. who knows how he will interperate what is in the book.

 

Sorry its just nonsence.

[TJS]

A belt only covers 2 inches of your butt, it's up to you to cover the rest

 

-Royce Gracie

[ramymensa]

I'm with NinjaMaster on this one: it's almost impossible to learn Karate just from the books and videos, without an instructor. There are very few exceptions (are they?) and they just prove the theory of the necessary sensei is OK.

 

The problem in Karate is all the techniques are done in a certain way. You don't just punch, kuck or block, you are dealing with inches, angles and so on. It's like in the geometry class

 

And when it comes to kata it's even worse.

 

Any student would make thousands of mistakes. Sensei would give advices and then the student, knowing what his mistakes are would do again thousands of mistakes, just because what the mind knows, the body can't always do The most important thing is to have someone to point out the mistakes and help overcome the problems. It's hard to change something you've learnt and it's wrong, so it's better learning it right from the first time.

 

Your enthusiasm is great, but try to find someone to guide you through the work. anyway good luck

[Guest]

I agree with all of that. There is nothing that can replace having a good instructor. However, if the kid can't find an instructor then do you suggest he just give up?? After all, if it makes him happy to do what it is that he is doing then isn't that what counts?

[NinjaMaster]

I would stop. Not give up. There is a difference.

 

If it makes him happy to get it wrong thats him but i know i wouldnt be happy doing that.

 

Realistically any decent grading he turns up to will throw him out laughing. Not for lack of effort but because he will get everything wrong.

 

I dont want to be mean but im trying to be realistic. If he can do i then i will eat my words no problem.

 

I have been doing this game a while now and I think he is %100 DOING THE WRONG THING. I admire his determination though.

 

I think if most of you are honest you will agree withme. I dont want to think we would encourage him to do something incorrectly just because of his enthusiasm. Dont you agree?