Vale Tudo!!

[craknek]

Hey, one of my friends who takes Vale Tudo locally, was telling me some intresting stuff about it....

 

He said, that Vale Tudo is of course a mixed martial art, which means no holds barred. He said tradiationally, Vale consists of JJ, Boxing, etc. He said that it can be a combo of any styles of your choosing.

 

he said that his instructor was telling him that Vale Tudo falls under the JKD concept, in which you find a martial art that suits your needs, instead of suiting the needs of a Martial Art.

 

With that said, he was telling me that he is learning the basics of TKD,JJ,Karate, Muay Thai. He said learning the basics is all you really need to be effective, the more complicated sometyhing is, the less likly you can do it in a real situation. Makes sense, when i watch UFC, I mostly watch the grapplers win by using an Arm Bar or a Triangle Choke, nothing to hard there.

 

So, in all reality, if you adopt the Vale Tudo mentality, you can learn the basics of several martial arts and just refine those skills??? Kinda like someone in thsi forum, there quote says something like, fear the man that has practiced a few kicks a 1000 times, instead of someone who has practiced a 1000 kicks a few t imes.

 

And, since you would be learning basic moves and attacks, you could probably... teach yourself to an extent. At my TKD class, without any prior TKD exp, I am one of the hardest kickers in there, and i just started 2 weeks ago? Why? Because I constantly kicked and punched a heavy bag.

 

People put down Vale Tudo, saying its for people who cant stick with something, i disagree... Vale Tudo is a pretty well rounded art. Whoever said that sticking with ONE martial art.. is the best way to go? Even the phenom Bruce Lee, when he did JKD, kept only the things that benefited him, and did away with everything that didnt. Bruce Lee knew over 26 diffferent styles of MA, does that mean he was a master in each?? No. His main was Wing Chun, but he read about and dabbleed lightly in other forms and taught himself.

[TJS]

mma/vale tudo fighter are the best fighters in the world. perriod end of story

[craknek]

Why?? Why are the best fighters in the world? I wanat someone to tell me if what my friend is saying is true, etc etc. Are the best because they take the basics of different martial arts and master them? Are they the best becausethety dont limit themselves to one art, instead they round themselves out??

 

Nick

[KickChick]

For more info on Vale Tudo... (in Greece, it's called Pancrase or Pancration, in Japan, it's called shootfighting, and in Brazil, it's called vale tudo. ... ) visit these threads

 

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=4923

 

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=5046

[jiu-jitsu fighter]

Vale Tudo, is a portuguese term fo anythnig goes, it was coined in brazil, vale-tudo, originally meant, bjj and boxing in a no-holds-barred, fashion.

 

But now alot of people are using the term to describe their arts. Also chute boxe, is another big movement in brazil, its muay thai and bjj.

 

I don't think you should be calling your vale-tudo jkd though, even jkd has its share of techniques that are unique to it alone.

 

"the more complicated stuff is less likely to work"

 

please do not generalise. that might be the case is some martial arts ,but not in bjj, so don';t stereotype.

 

good luck with your training

[IAMA_chick]

hmmm, never even heard of it. sounds interesting though

[1ONEfighting]

"I don't think you should be calling your vale-tudo jkd though, even jkd has its share of techniques that are unique to it alone."

 

I think true vale tudo fits very neatly into the definition of jeet kune do, even more to an extent than Jun Fan Gung Fu.

 

A true ability to fight from any range, no illegal techniques and truly inspired groundwork.

 

Bruce Lee would be proud.

[Kaju_influenced]

Hey thnx JJF i didnt know that

[SevenStar]

I pretty much agree with what's been said here.