Lucidartist Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Wow! Holy crap! I had never heard of that guy. That stuff is incredible. Is he still alive?He is DokterVet, not a person you want to meet down a dark ally, he is one of those men that can carry on a fight after broken fingers, toes, ribs etc like he did in some of those fight records. I don't believe that the greatest martial artists have to be the toughest nuts on the planet..... but it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kle1n Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 i like hulk hogan lol Be everything. Be nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon1981 Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 Their are a lot of great fighters who are probably not even know. Pit fights and othe (illegal) fights happen all the time. I would not say Bruce Lee was one of the best fighters. He never had an established fight record. Helio and Rickson Gracie were good but now I believe they are to commercial. (although I still would not fight them) Morehai Ueshiba was suppose to be untoachable. Some say that this little man still did not faulter in his technique even to his death. Masutatsu Oyama,Kanken Toyama were also good. It is hard to name just one. Actually it is impossible for me to name one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 In Bruce Lee's defense: He never had a fight record because in his time the only form of fighting Tournaments were Karate no-contact sparring. Where the winner was decided by judges who determine who probably would have won by the attacks made but never landed. Lee thought this little more than controlled chaos because sparring of that kind could not teach you to fight in real life. That is why he does not have a fighting record, because that kind of sparring was too trivial to be of importance to him. However, Lee's prowess in fighting in the street is just as big a part of his legend. He was constantly getting in fights in the streets of Hong Kong and getting in trouble with the authorities. His own father eventually sent Bruce back to the US because of this. There he had to fight in public to prove the worth of "Gung Fu" (basically unknown to the US then) in fights against many Karate practicioners, and then even more so with his spawning of Jeet Kune Do. Each time he would get the knock-out win in around 10 seconds. Later on, towards the end of his years and becoming internationally famous as a Martial Artist, he was constantly being challenged to fights by various people of all backgrounds. They were made either by phone or mail, and too often Bruce accepted. Now to this day, after all the street fighting, knock-out demonstrations, and challenges there is not a single person who can claim to have beaten Bruce Lee in a fight (accept perhaps Wong Jack Man but that in itself is too controversial to be considered). P.S. - This post was not in anyway intended to disprove the worth of Karate. It is a great Martial Art and no matter which one you take it will be good. I was just pointing out the fact that when Bruce came to the US, Karate was basically the only MA around, and so the people he had defeated here were of that style. "Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. Put water into a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot. Now water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend."- Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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