Wing Chun Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 i dont know too much about the plot but in the film jet li beats a lot of karate black belts. now jet li markets wushu, which some people consider a generic term for chinese martial arts. and that guy obviously thought that karate represented the japanese arts. so when he saw wushu beat karate in a way he thought it was trying to portray chinese martial arts superiority .over japanese martial arts. ::EDIT by monkeygirl - keep it respectful. EDIT::
karate_woman Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 What an excellent response Mr Li gave you The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse
Wing Chun Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 okay im going to try rephrasing this so no one is 'ofended'. Treebranch my dear frind, if you do not know about a martial art then i think the most correct course of action would be to not comment at all. u were very very wrong, but that ur ur fault - u were simply misinformed anyway you mentioned how styles like wing chun are sused because they look good on film. that is very incorrect. films like flashy moves - high kicks, and long movements etc. wing chun is nothing like that, it revolves around simplicity with the sole purpose of destroying the opponent. jeet kune do maybe because some persons individual expression of jeet kune do may involve flashy moves. wushu yes. please may i every plotely ask where you got this informationt hat wing chun was style made to look good? also haveyoiu done any research on wing chun? and finally have i made you aware of this error. if you have any queries regarding wing chun please dont hesitate to contact me. thank you
Treebranch Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 Watch the movie Hunted with Benecio Deltoro, and tell me that they are not doing Wing Chun techniques. You've never seen STICKY HANDS used in Movies? I guess I watch a lot of MA movies. Sorry if I offended you, but some MA look better on film than others, doesn't mean they don't work. All I really said if you read what I said closer, was that Martial Arts in films are flowery and would not look like that in a real fight. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Martial_Artist Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 (edited) In the movie The Hunted with Benicio Del Toro and Tommy Lee Jones they used Sayoc Kali, a Filipino Marital Art. It was not Wing Chun. EDIT::Martial Artist:: I corrected the name of the martial art. It is not Silat Kayoc but Sayoc Kali.:: Edited April 25, 2003 by Martial_Artist "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein
Wing Chun Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 thank you very much Martial Artist. Treebranch how do you feel now? as for sticky hands it is a training thing, just like shadow boxing or katas. films may show the main 'hero' or whatever use such well known training methods for effect so people know he is training for a fight. wing chun can only look good to those who are really into simple fast movements. i mean some guy walking up a tight corridor and getting rushed he might use wing chun to very swiftly deal with them. but some wing cun techniques may be used for a second but wing chun primarily??? i dont think so. people liek seeing acrobatic moves and flowery movements that LOOK efficient, whats wrong with that? i like seeing them like that aswell. but trust me wing chun cant be modified to look acrobatic. some can enjoy watching it however but please dont put it in the same category of the arts that are used in films. thank you.
Withers M.A.A. Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 Very good response. I wonder if that was from Jet Li himself or from a spokesperson for him. 2nd Degree black belt in Kenpo Karate and Tae Kwon Do. 1997 NASKA competitor-2nd place Nationally in Blackbelt American Forms. Firearms activist!
Treebranch Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 OK my bad I was told wrong, my mistake. I didn't know it was only used for training, no hard feelings I hope. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Tamojin Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 Movies rarely reflect MA's accurately. Praying Mantis in movies is always way off base. The use of the mantis claw is always over- emphasized. In a movie with a kung fu hero the villains are usually Japanese and vice versa. at least in the older chinese ma films. Jet Li is a great man and chinese art advocate - his answer was very good. Bruce Lee seemed to rail against karate because that was the rage of the day i think. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless--like water.
Drunken Monkey Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 i think in general, wing chun only looks good to people who wing chun cos we appreciate more the little intricacies. kinda like the way that the hackers will be happy to see a semi proper hack prgram used in matrix reloaded. us wing chun guys must have got a kick form the use of bong sau and lau sau and tau sau (from seraph, the only dude in white... as you know, the classic colour of the good guy) post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
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