JuiJitsu different from Judo?

[Dekan]

What exactly is the difference between Japanese JJ and Judo??

 

I know Judo is kind of the "Sport" subset of JJ, but if taking a class what is the difference between how/what is taught between the two??

 

Why would someone want to take either one over the other??

[Kyle-san]

I've found that JJ tends to add in a lot more strikes and concentrate on "deadlier" techniques. It's just the slight differences between a technique for sport that'll score you some points and a technique to seriously damage an enemy. Of course, I haven't had a lot of experience with either style (close to a year) so there's probably someone else around that can explain it better.

[Kensai]

Basically:

 

JJJ has striking/kicking/weapons as well as the throws.

 

Judo has no striking/kicking/weapons as such. But has Randori, this free fighting ability gave it free rain over Japanese JJ styles for some time, it trashed them all nearly in challenge fights. This was mainly due to the Ne waza.

[Kyle-san]

But has Randori, this free fighting ability gave it free rain over Japanese JJ styles for some time, it trashed them all nearly in challenge fights. This was mainly due to the Ne waza.

 

And the clear restrictions on striking.

[karate_woman]

JuJitsu - gentle techniques,

 

Judo - gentle way

 

Basically, judo is derived from jujitsu. Some say Jigaro Kano felt some of the techniques were too dangerous and took them out when he made judo. Others say he simply took the best techniques and put them together.

 

As for why to take one over the other...well on the side of Judo, it is an Olympic Sport. On the side of Jujitsu, from what I have learned between jujitsu and judo, jujitsu has more lethal techniques, but I only reached orange in Judo, and jujitsu seemed to teach more dangerous stuff (comparatively) right away.

[SevenStar]

But has Randori, this free fighting ability gave it free rain over Japanese JJ styles for some time, it trashed them all nearly in challenge fights. This was mainly due to the Ne waza.

 

And the clear restrictions on striking.

 

I doubt it - look what bjj has done in mma over the years. How they train makes all the difference. If jduo guys are used to hard randori on a regular basis, where as the jj guys couldn't do that because their stuff was "too deadly". Consequently, the judoka were more prepared for the shiai.

[SevenStar]

On judo and "deadliness" there are spine locks and leg locks, but you won't be shown them until advanced levels.

 

As far as the throws that you learn, think about it...

 

ippon seoinage - don't turn your waist as you throw him - bend straight down and throw him on his head. Also, turn his extended arm down, with his elbow pressed against your shoulder - it will break as you throw him.

 

hiza guruma - instead of hitting the knee from the side, kick it head on.

 

kata guruma - don't wheel him all the way around - drop him on his head.

 

o soto gari - push back on his head as you kazushi, instead of his lapel - drive his head into the ground.

 

with thought, you can find destructive alternatives of many of the throws.

[ninjanurse]

JuJitsu is NOT a sport. Judo is.

 

[Kensai]

lol. The old sport Vs traditional arguement.

 

There is nothing bad about Sport, testing your abilties. Dont confuse matchs with fights. However, matchs help you both mentally and physically and as well as taking some pretty nasty throws from a more combat like situation which you just dont get in some more traditional systems (or the way they are taught now).

 

No Martial art should be looked down upon because it has a sport aspect. Which your argument seems to be Ninjanurse.

[ninjanurse]

JuJitsu is NOT a sport. Judo is.

 

 

How is this an argument against Judo because it is a sport and jujitsu is not? It is merely a statement regarding philosophy and has nothing to do with traditional versus sport. Could it be you are feeling defensive for some reason and are reading something into my statement that is not there? No offense is or was intended.