MuayThai Fighter Posted March 8, 2003 Posted March 8, 2003 To have an effective art of self-defense or street defense,one must learn to kick effectively with technique,speed and power as those in MuayThai.The punhes of boxing are also very important due to it's accuracy,speed,power and different techniques. We cannot forget the effectiveness of grappling such as in jujitsu,submission wrestling,judo among a few others. An effective art is not all about stand up fighting,to have a perfect,and most effective art one must be able to fight despite of situation and position put in,whether it be standing up or on the ground. All rounded fights are mixed martial arts fighting as seen in several pay per view fights such as UFC,Sabaki Challenge,WFA,Pride,King of the Cage etc. A good martial artist can do anything from kick,punch,knee,use elbow strikes,takedown,grapple,apply submissions (arm bars,chokes,knee locks,elbow locks,neck cranks etc.) What's everyone's opinion on this?
AndrewGreen Posted March 8, 2003 Posted March 8, 2003 A horse drawn carrige is effective, a Model T more so, a porshe 911 even more so. A reliant and a Corvette can both get you where you're going. But put them against each other and the corvette will win. Does that mean reliants are "bad"? No, not everyone is willing to put out the cost for a corvette. Not everyone is willing to train full contact, let a stranger mount them, and pummel for a double underhook. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
MuayThai Fighter Posted March 8, 2003 Author Posted March 8, 2003 A horse drawn carrige is effective, a Model T more so, a porshe 911 even more so. A reliant and a Corvette can both get you where you're going. But put them against each other and the corvette will win. Does that mean reliants are "bad"? No, not everyone is willing to put out the cost for a corvette. Not everyone is willing to train full contact, let a stranger mount them, and pummel for a double underhook. Comparing cars to me means nothing because I don't know anything about cars.I've never driven before. Anyways I never said anything about something being bad and about what people are willing to put out and never even said that everyone is willing to fight full contact. I agree not everyone cares to study more then one art or even to compete full contact,but that wasn't my point. I'm not talking about what everyone wants from a martial arts.I'm talking about what makes an all rounded martial arts for those who do want to do full contact and to learn as street-defense.
AndrewGreen Posted March 8, 2003 Posted March 8, 2003 Ok, you got TV listed in your bio, lets go for that. You want to watch your favorite kung fu movie, what is effective. 1) A 13 inch B&W 2) A 19 inch color 3) A 60" big screen 4) All of the above All are effective, some better then others. Some cost more then others. But all will get the job done. Most people won't want to put out for a state of the art $20000 home theater system, they'll end up up somewhere lower down the line. That doesn't mean they can't watch the movie, but put up against the state of the art one they will seem less effective. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
Smith amp Wesson Posted March 8, 2003 Posted March 8, 2003 I gotta ask why it is you live in a developed country & have never driven a car. Dad gum even folks in Latin America drive cars. I was drivin go carts before I can remember & drivin on dirt roads at 12. You ever try a moped ????
Kyle-san Posted March 9, 2003 Posted March 9, 2003 What if the art isn't competition oriented? What if it isn't combat oriented? Because it has a different purpose does it automatically render it "less effective"? What if the point of the art is to develop the person, not to win medals?
AndrewGreen Posted March 9, 2003 Posted March 9, 2003 What if the art isn't competition oriented? What if it isn't combat oriented? Because it has a different purpose does it automatically render it "less effective"? Yes... and you seem to be saying that as well... A microwave is less effective then a toaster for making toast, it serves a different purpose. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
MuayThai Fighter Posted March 9, 2003 Author Posted March 9, 2003 (edited) I gotta ask why it is you live in a developed country & have never driven a car. Dad gum even folks in Latin America drive cars. I was drivin go carts before I can remember & drivin on dirt roads at 12. You ever try a moped ???? Never driven whether a car,motorbike,go cart,or moped,I can't drive due to medical reasons,not out of choice. I shouldn't even be doing martial arts especially something like muaythai that is full contact,but it's what I enjoy and what I do best,and beats staying home all the time. Please don't ask what my medical condition is,it's not something I want to advertize to the whole world. Edited March 9, 2003 by MuayThai Fighter
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