What's modern? What's traditional?

[Grunt]

So, which styles are considered modern? Which ones are considered traditional? And is there a definitive way to categorize each or is it somewhat arbitrary? Thanks!

 

Grunt

[LeaF]

I suppose it is all subjective, but I concider moder style to be styles without katas, and are fairly newly developed ie BJJ and Mauy Thai (altough I am aware they have been around for a while). Also modern styles often tend to lack a spirtual aspect. I am not saying one is better than the other, merely giving my definition of what separates them

[Kyle-san]

I suppose it is all subjective, but I concider moder style to be styles without katas, and are fairly newly developed ie BJJ and Mauy Thai (altough I am aware they have been around for a while). Also modern styles often tend to lack a spirtual aspect. I am not saying one is better than the other, merely giving my definition of what separates them

 

Traditional Jujutsu lacks kata, does that mean it's a modern style despite being used hundreds of years ago?

[TJS]

I would consider a modern stlye a style that changes and adpts to a chngine world, it gets rid of what dosent work and sticks to what does.

 

traditional styles generally stick to what has always been done, whether it works or not. they dont bring in new techniques or get rid of anything.

[LeaF]

hey I never said my definintion was perfect

[Grunt]

Thanks folks. Can anyone list some examples of traditional and modern styles? For example:

 

== Traditional ==

 

Shotokan

 

TKD

 

???

 

== Modern ==

 

BJJ

 

???

 

Thanks!

 

Grunt

[Karateka_latino]

In my personal opinion

 

A Traditional style is one that has been practiced for years and years with little to no change in there techniques and performance. have an old story. Rich in cultural traditions of the country the style was created.

 

A Modern Style is usually a style that has been born out of the combination of traditional styles, change training methods. Have less than 40-50 years of creation.

 

A Modern Style can turn into a traditional styles if its keep practiced the same way for years and years with little to no changes.

 

A traditional Style can be turned into a Modern just by crosstraining, adding diferent techniques from other styles, and changing the training method.

 

Some Traditionals Styles are:

 

Okinawan Karate (shorinryu, goju ryu )

 

Japanese Karate (shotokan)

 

Daitoryu Aikijujutsu

 

Kenjutsu

 

Ninjutsu

 

Aikido

 

Tang Soo Do/soo bhak Do

 

Muay Thai/kabri kabron

 

Tai Chi Chuan

 

Shaolin Kung Fu

 

Wing Chun

 

Shorinji Kempo

 

Iaido/Kendo

 

Kyudo

 

Sumo

 

Taekwondo ITF

 

Modern styles can be:

 

Muay thai/Kickboxing

 

Jeet Kune do

 

Krav Maga

 

American Kenpo Karate

 

Hapkido

 

Taekwondo WTF

 

Brazilian Jiu jitsu

 

Choi Kwan Do

 

Sambo

 

Karate Kyokushin

[AndrewGreen]

I see at as more of a difference in attitude then anything else.

 

A tradtitional style follows traditions, doesn't matter how old it is. It is more concerned with following the traditions and preserving then changing and evolving.

 

A traditional style has a syllybus defined by tradition, as oppose to one defined by what the coach/athlete feels is most effective.

 

Not sure about the traditional/modern distinction though.

 

Which is boxing? Wrestling? Both have been around a very long time, but neither are "bound" by tradition.

 

I would consider both "traditional", but in a different sense then something like XXX-ryu karate/jujitsu/kenjitsu/whatever...

[kenpolifter]

The only situation I see with traditional styes is this. Fighting techniques have changed over time. Unless your style is willing to adapt to the changing society, it cannot grow. I did alot of homework before I selected my style and this was a major concern for me. I selected Parker kenpo for this reason. Mr parker wanted his style to adapt and grow with the changing world.