wcnavstar Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 While the many styles out there teach animal techniques. And after being told so will look like animal movements. The human body itself has a wide variety of motion;yet, our body itself is completly different from the majority of animals out there represented by Animal Kung Fu Systems. Dragon, Snake, Crane, Tiger, Leopard, Dog, Duck...the one close exception would be the other primate....the Monkey. Yet we still make a connection between these motions and the animals we feel it nost represents. Still no matter how much you try to tell yourself that you are moving and attacking as that animal would. You are still human and therefore cannot. However this does not mean that the movements are useless, every animal style I have studied or wittnessed, at first glanec seems totally off the wall compared to other styles. If you get down to the basic principles, generation of energy, and indavidual techniques. they will begin to reamble any other style of Kung Fu or martial art. These animals may have inspired their creators to develop new innovative styles. But all they have done is in a way disguise normal fighting movements with unseen delivery; hence causing confusion with their opponenets. The end result being a victory. The conclusion is that Animal Kung Fu holds as much validity as you are willing to give it. Was you realize and learn the basic principles of unarmed combat. Any style will come to you easy. Very Respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
theswarm Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Sorry Kaju I misunderstood your words, the message it seemed you were emitting was that unless you take your martial art into the street you are not a real martial artist... I saw this as a pretty macho attitude, where I saw a real martial artist would not create the conflict. So apologies for the misunderstanding. What I also meant by the gun comment was that if street defence is your only goal then you might as well have a gun, takes little time to learn does it's job in an instant. (Understand I'm actually very anti gun). In relation to the question at hand and I think the last poster summed it up. Fighting like an animal is a deceptive art that puts the opponent off guard, just like drunken kung fu, and things like capoueira
tommarker Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 I hope animal styles work, since many claim that okinawan karate has its roots in Shaolin White Crane I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
fungku Posted March 30, 2003 Posted March 30, 2003 The ultimate street martial (martial meaning military) art is the martial art of the gun. Guns are what get you in jail or killed. If someone ever tries to attack you without a lethal weapon like a gun, and you happen to shoot them, what do you think happens? Also, I would rather be trained in martial arts, and have a cool head in a threatening situation, than be panicking and have a gun. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
tommarker Posted March 30, 2003 Posted March 30, 2003 I'd rather be trained in martial arts AND have the good common sense to know when I should or shouldn't use my gun. Understand that I am extremely pro-gun. I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
fungku Posted March 30, 2003 Posted March 30, 2003 I'm glad I live in Canada. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
jmd161 Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 There have been many interesting answers to this topic ,but i don't think any have really answered the question. Shotokan_Karate0, Your question of does fighting like a animal really work. Answer= Yes The thought of animal styles is to have the spirit and mind set of the animal more than really trying to look like the animal.Don't get me wrong you do mimick the animal ,but that's not just what goes into animal styles. Someone posted that when you attack like a tiger you go through the person and when using crane you evade and counter strikes that is correct.Tiger is a powerful animal so it fits strong ppl. Someone tall and skinny would fit better with White Crane style to avoid direct attacks from someone big and powerful.Monkey Style is deceptive you never no what a monkey is going to do.A monkey stylist can turn and run like in fear ,but if you chase them they can stop on a dime turn around and attack you and then you're in trouble.Or a monkey stylist can attack you head to head with speed and power. I could explain every animal style and why it does what it does ,but that would take to long and plus. I don't want to I think you kinda get the point. Animal styles are very effective because you carry the spirit of the animal and mind set along with the techniques into combat. jeff The Basics Are The Hidden Secret To Kung Fu Master The Basics.
theswarm Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 i'm anti gun to the people that were talking guns beside me and kaju what i'm saying is if self defence is the only thing you care about buy a gun. I'd rather spend time at my dojo improving my body, and mind etc. I think the perfect test of animal style is to pit animal stylists versus their respective animals
fungku Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 the perfect test of animal style is to pit animal stylists versus their respective animals In that case, I think I'll take Mantis. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
monkeygirl Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 good point, fungku. Remember to keep the discussion on the topic, which is about animal styles...not gun control! 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
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