Thoughts on Kodenkan Jujitsu

[Dustin1978]

Hey Everyone!

 

I was looking into Aikido as some of you may remember and also Kuk Sul Do. I am now leanign towards Kodenkan Jujitsu because they do full sparring and they claim to have all the join locks and throws of aikido and alot of striking as well. They say Aikido stems from this art. The woman I talked to seemed VERY informed and nothing she said sounded at all made up or false.

 

I still havnt moved yet so i havnt been able to observe a class but I was just curious on everyones thoughts. If you had the option of Aikido, Kuk Sul Do, or Kodenkan Jujitsu which of these would you recamend for my needs?

 

I want to learn how to defend myself. I realize MAs are life time commitments but I would like to use what i learn fairly quickly like be somewhat usable on the street in the first year. I REALLY WANT TO LEARN JOINT LOCKS AND TAKE DOWNS so I am thinking the Juhitsu would be super cool. And the real world wrestlign sparring sessions.

 

Here is the link to the site for the dojo. Please let me know what you guys think. They also teach acupuncter that is cool. And Weapons also. Check the link and let me know what ya think.

 

http://chicokodenkan.com/

 

Thanks

[Kyle-san]

From what you're saying that you'd like out of the art (able to use quickly, locks, takedowns) Jujutsu would definately be the way to go. It'll give you the results the fastest and if you've found a good dojo it'll make you very dangerous by the time you're done.

[Dustin1978]

Thank you for the reply Kyle-san. It is VERY inspiring! I am leaning HEAVILY towards the jujitsu.

[Kensai]

To be truely effective in ANY of the Traditional Martial arts takes a long time. However, it is true that some take long than others. I cant speak for the other styles, but Aikido does take longer to become effective. So I would not suggest it.

 

Kuk Sul Do, is probably the most different of the 3 styles you have suggested. Aikido and Japanese Jujutsu styles, favour more grappling and joint manpulation, (Simply because, a strike to an Armoured samurai with your bare hands is not a good thing. So the only way to hurt them unarmed was the manipulated the space/joints between the armour itself, hence why jujutsu and Aikido do more joint locks.)

 

From my limited knowlegde of Korean Arts, Kuk Sul Do is focused much more on striking and kicking. Although like Karate styles, its grappling and locking methods are taught through forms or Hyung/Poomse.

 

I have never heard for this Kodenkan jujutsu however it is NOT one of the styles that Aikido is based on, that would be these:

 

Kito-ryu

 

Iso-ryu

 

Kage-ryu

 

Daito Ryu Aiki Jujutsu

 

Not that thats really important just a point of information.

 

Good Luck in what you study.

[Dustin1978]

Yeah she may have mentioned one of those arts you named and said that kodenken was just anotehr way to say it or a more common or locall name I cannot remember.

 

Would you be interested in calling the school andaskingfor a breif history and liniage and then telling me what you think?

 

To me she sounded legit but like I said I havnt been able to observe a class as I don't live there yet.

 

This is a direct link to the name of the sensei and the address phone number and email of the school. I hope I am not crossing any lines by posting this info here but it is on the web so already open to the public right? I would just appriciate someone informed like yourself or anyone here to talk to her directly and tell me your take on it.

 

http://chicokodenkan.com/contact.html

 

Thanks guys and girls

[Kensai]

I would love to, however living in the UK, makes the call a small fortune.

 

I think you really have to go the classes and see if YOU get the right feel.

 

Make sure that she gives you a lineage from Sensei to Sensei. If it does not lead back to Japan then begin to worry. Also, if it is not a "traditional" martial art in that they have changed it a little. Make sure you ask them why they changed it and that they give you good reasoning.

 

If you have any other worries, myself and other people here will be more than pleased to help you out.

[Kyle-san]

Make sure that she gives you a lineage from Sensei to Sensei. If it does not lead back to Japan then begin to worry. Also, if it is not a "traditional" martial art in that they have changed it a little. Make sure you ask them why they changed it and that they give you good reasoning.

 

Personally, I see nothing wrong with not being able to give a sensei by sensei lineage. Even if they did give that, it'd have absolutely no bearing on my decision just because they were trained by some master who was trained by another master, etc. If the sensei there isn't someone you feel comfortable with or have problems learning from/trusting then it's a sign to leave. If you feel comfortable and are understanding the techniques and explainiations, then you know you've latched onto a good sensei.