Kensai Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 As we have seen this list collected by so called Martial Arts experts and very few of us agree with it. So what your list be, and WHY do you have them on your list. I'll start. 10. Western Boxing - Ali 9. BJJ - a truely amazingly skillful style 8. Ninjutsu - the worlds most complete art 7. Kyuoshin Karate - Mas Oyama. 6. Shaolin - beautfil and amazing dedication of its practioners. (Buddist Monks) 6. Goju Ryu Karate Do - So fuild 5. Jujutsu, From Kito to Aikijutsu - a bit vague with I love them all. 4. Hsing I - So so solid. 3. Ba Gua - one of the worlds most beautiful arts 2. Judo - practical application and fittness 1.Aikido - its my passion and my life. Ofcourse this is only my list. I am sure that people would disagree. So please put down what your list would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffin Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Ninjitsu the most complete art - Buwhahahaha I've yet to come across a none mcdojo or hear of one or even imagine one. But you are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. 10. BJJ for an amazing art and its massive influence in the martial arts world. 9. Fencing for being an astoundingly graceful yet competent art. 8. Shaolin because its cool, nuff said. 7. Boxing, for being the most underated self defence tool. 6. Aikido because my teacher was truly amazing and taught me to respect an art so few do. 5. Silat because it is one of the few war arts left. 4. Tai chi for its power generation and balance disruption techniques and its uniqueness. 3. Cappoeira its just so much fun 2. Praying mantis/choy lay fut (can't decide) Speed power amazing footwork energetic beautiful forms what more do you want. 1. Muay thai so effective and amazing The superior man is modest in his speech, but excels in his actions.Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)Crosstraining in bjj/silat/muaythai/jkd/JJJ/kickboxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaF Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 hmmm this could be a though one as my knowledge of different arts is so limited...... 10. Kobudo (although not the most complete art as it only pratices weapons, it has a rich history and maintains a pratical relavence in today's society.) 9. kendo, the grace and swiftfulness of their sword, always blows my mind:) 8. Mauy Thai kickboxing, The amazing speed and technique these people have make them very powerful and worthy oppenants 7. BJJ- an art whose complex locks and graps astonish many, including myself 6. Judo a traditional art which a survived difficult times and still amazes me with it's remarkable throws. 5. Tai chi/Nei Chi etc. The soft flowing arts filled with lifetimes of knowledge and the secrets to longevity 4. Ninjitsu (a balenced art containing many different elements of training) 3.Kung Fu (Not to sure when it somes to specfic styles) An art filled with magistic and graceful movements that are ever so powerful, incredable 2. Akido/Iaido Two arts the complement each other wonderfully, true amazing 1. Goju Ryu Karate-do (my style and my life) Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 I dont like to put them in order bucause that depends on alot of things, but i will give my top 10 and why, generally i base them on actually ability and effectiveness. BJJ-Ground fighting is often overlooked, and few do it better than them. Krav Maga-Simple, effective, well rounded, includes all ranges of the fight including weapond, multiple attackers, suprise etc. I liek it becuase it was designed to work under stress, to work off a disadvantage..so i belive 100% it will work in the street. I belive the downfal to many styles is not that they dont work, but they wont work if you are scared half to death, or are under serious stress. Wrestling-a good wrestler can take most people to the ground if he chooses but is also VERY difficult to take down if he dosent want to be, always an important thing to have, street or ring Western Boxing- No one is better with their hand than a boxer, and when everything is thrown it alot of the times its alot more practical to hit than kick. Muay Thai-speaks for itself, Proabably the most effective standup fighting stlye around. devestating kness,elbows, kicks, clinch, cant argue with succes. Judo-if taught right can be very effective on the street ..a good throw will end a fight very quickly. San da,-very tough stadup fighting, good throws. Kyokoshin Karate,-very tough standup style. thats my list, in no particular order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 1. Kung Fu - It was the first it has many styles, great history, developes the mind and body, works well for SD and Combat, weapons, kata, and is studies by millions across the world. 2. Karate - Its name alone stands for any sort of MA to any person with no understanding of what MA is. A rich history that comes out in many styles. A well balanced art between puching and kicking. Focus on hard and soft. Works well for SD and conbat. Some styles of karate use weapons some do not but a huge fucus on kata and is also studies by millions in Asia, America, and Eruope. (TSD is basically karate) 3. TKD - The art that has taken karate from the dojo the the olympic games. TKD has direct ties to American Kickboxing which is where guys like Norris, Walllace, Wilson made their fame and made MA famous. Again rich history, use of some weapons, and kata. Better for sport than SD IMO however it is a very popular art and that counts for a lot. 4. Hapikdo - A mix of Karate, Akido, and Judo. I know it was not set out that way but if you think about it thats about what it is. It has stand up fighting like Karate, locks like Akido and throws like Judo. Not as well known as the others ont he list but a very full art full of history. Also has a focus on weapons and kata. 5. Judo - Judo is in front of Akido IMO because like TKD Judo has taken MA to the next leval the olympic games. Judo is also one of the oldest MA and a lot of early Karate founders had deep Judo roots. The abilty of the art to work alone gets it on my list. Unlike BJJ most Judo schools spend time on their stand up fighting as well. I really don't know if they use kata but its history and ability to take MA to the next leval don't matter. 6. Akido - A great art I would love to study. The ability to use the attacker force against them is nothing short of amazing. However Akido has NO kicks and very few strikes. IMO that takes a lot away from it as being a complete art. However its ties to the Samuri and sword play adds a lot not many arts can. The use of kata and great throwing moves and locks along with its history keeps it in my top 10. 7. Muay Thai - Without question you learn to fight in this art. If you don't learn you basically don't last long. Maybe the most effective art if you want to learn to fight in a week to take. However the learing curve after say one year of training gets basically flat. As to where all the arts above the curce stays the same or even gets sharper. Thai has great history and developes the spirt and the mind for the ture Thai fighter. The art is a striking art however and his little to no ground game. In fact I would say it has less grappeling in its trainign that any art outside of boxing. However the power and effectivness of it as a fighting art is unreal and keeps it on my list. 8. Ninjitsu - When we were all little kids we wanted to be a ninja. Heck some of us still do. There is something superhero about it that we all love. A very well rounded art that few have the chance to truely learn. Great focus is put on the mental and spiritual not to mention the physical aspect of the art. Weapons do I need to say more. Ninjitsu although not studied by very many people is a term we all know and has helped seel MA to millions of kids. 9. Wrestling - Im not talking about Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan here. However wrestling was maybe the first MA developed in the West. Wrestling is a sport in almost all High Schools in the USA and is studied by millions arround the world. Although it is not a great art for SD it is very effective in events. Many of the early UFC winners were one time wrestlers. Again it has long been a olympic event. Wrestling is often not thought of as a MA because it was not developed in Asia but none the less it should be on this list. 10. BJJ or Jitsu in general - Maybe the most popular MA today. Everyone has seen the Gracie family and wants to know what they know. My only problem with BJJ that stops it from being a top 5 art or higher. The Gracie family will only fight in events with certin rules. So IMO that makes the art limited to what it can and can not do. Now there is no question it is a super art and had tons and tons of great moves that can end any fight in a matter of seconds. However again I want to point out its use is SD is in question. Going to the ground in a ring is one thing. Going to the ground on the street with your attackers friends standing arround is another. So the lack of a stand up game and rules IMO hurts BJJ from being higher. However it is grwoing very fast thanks to the Gracie clan. Only time will tell if its a fad or the real thing. You will notice my list did not have any mixed arts on it. Styles such as Krav Maga, Sambo, SAVATE, etc. There is a differance in arts that developed as arts made from others and arts that developed alone. Many of the moves you see in those arts are from Judo, Jitsu, Thai, Karate, Kung Fu, etc. So to me that is a horse of a differant color. I hope you like my list I think its pretty good LOL. But thats what I think. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 1-10. MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiFightsMS Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 I noticed no one has mentioned SanShou. Where would you place a martial art that includes punches, kicks, throws, elbows and knees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka_latino Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 In no particular order: Brazilian Jiu jitsu Boxing Karate Taekwondo/Tang soo do Aikido/jiu jitsu Judo Wrestling Muay Thai Combat Sambo Hapkido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Sai I must admit I have never head of SanShou. LOL Where is it from? Give me a little info on it. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiFightsMS Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 It is a chines boxing form. A guy named Cung Lee is one of the top fighters. From the little bit I have seen it is really interesting to watch. https://karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=5700&sid=a4933417ac08be1375f79a6f2ab5c53e Here is a link to another thread where SanShou was recently brought up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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