CatchGuy Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Actually Tony Cecchine is the authority on Catch Wrestling. I would stay away from the Matt Furey stuff though. Moreover jmy77 if you already have a background in wrestling, Catch would be right up your alley. Think of it as Wrestling and Submission fighting all in one. As for its effectiveness...don't even think for a second that it isn't. It is very effective. Compared to other grappling arts, Catch does not really take a defensive approach...it is generally more of an aggressive style. They also tend to focus on more leg subs than some of the jj/bjj counterparts. Catch me if you can!
jmy77 Posted February 27, 2003 Author Posted February 27, 2003 Thanks. I got the impression that Cecchine was more of a path to persue than Furey. Though Furey is master marketer Cecchine seems to trained in Catch for much longer than Furey. I have only come across one gym in NYC (which is far from home) that teaches catch and even that is only once per week or so. It truely has become the unconventional art (as opposed to JJ, BJJ and Judo) No time for spell check, typing on the fly, excuse any errors. "Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft." - Pres. Theodore Roosevelt "You don't have to like it, you just have to do it." - Captain Richard Marcinko, USN, Ret."Do more than what is required of you." - General George S. Patton"If you have to step on someone else to stand tall, then you truely are a small person." - ?
CatchGuy Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 I am not sure where you live, but there may well be some Catch guys near you. They may not have a school open, but I am sure they would be happy to train with you. If you were in Chicago, I would definitely say look Tony up. There are members all over, you could join the message board to find out if anyone is close to you. Catch me if you can!
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 RENZO GRACIE ........... IS IN NEW YORK, !!!!! "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
jmy77 Posted February 28, 2003 Author Posted February 28, 2003 Renzo's school is more than I can afford. Good idea about the Cecchine forums. Will do. Thanks, Catch. "Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft." - Pres. Theodore Roosevelt "You don't have to like it, you just have to do it." - Captain Richard Marcinko, USN, Ret."Do more than what is required of you." - General George S. Patton"If you have to step on someone else to stand tall, then you truely are a small person." - ?
ak74auto Posted March 2, 2003 Posted March 2, 2003 I am familiar with it , but have not personally trained in this style . If matt furey has trained under Carl Gotch like he says he has , then your money will be well spent. Carl is to wrestling what Helio is to jujitsu. Study and show thyself approved. Don't become so focused on the weapon that you become castrated. HDR - 2000
CatchGuy Posted March 2, 2003 Posted March 2, 2003 First it's Frank Gotch, not Carl Gotch that gets respect in the catch world..and secondly, save your money and steer away from Matt Furey's stuff...it is more of a marketing thing. That would be like studying Tae bo so you can kickbox better. Catch me if you can!
ak74auto Posted March 3, 2003 Posted March 3, 2003 First it's Frank Gotch, not Carl Gotch that gets respect in the catch world..and secondly, save your money and steer away from Matt Furey's stuff...it is more of a marketing thing. That would be like studying Tae bo so you can kickbox better. Sir , I have spent quite a bit of time studying wrestling , and am familiar with BOTH Gotch's ( they are not kin to each other) Carl is an absolute bad ass , he makes Lou Thesz look like a wimp ! Here is a link to Tony cecchines Catch as catch can wrestling website , you guys might consider looking into it. http://www.catchwrestle.com/abouticwa.htm Study and show thyself approved. Don't become so focused on the weapon that you become castrated. HDR - 2000
KickChick Posted March 3, 2003 Posted March 3, 2003 Here are some more links .... http://home.earthlink.net/~jman777/catch.html http://gnarlmaster.tripod.com/gnarlmaster/index.htm
CatchGuy Posted March 4, 2003 Posted March 4, 2003 ak74auto I am a member of the catchwrestle.com site. Every Catch wrestler knows their is a difference between the two Gotches, and that they are not related. Frank Gotch was from Iowa and actually was the state wrestling champion. You will not find Carl Gotches name in the historical section on the catchwrestle site. Frank Gotch was a well respected Catch Wrestler. The way you speak about Lou Thesz obviously shows me that you know nothing about Catch; it was actually clearly evident when you made your initial statement about Matt Furey(who is more about marketing than anything else). Not only do I study it from a historical perspective, I also practice it. I really wish you wouldn't make uninformed statements like that. At best it would probably start a flame, and at worst, you could be misleading people who have a genuine interest in the style. Perhaps you should take a look around on www.catchwrestle.com...then tell me what you find. Catch me if you can!
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