Wing Chun Posted April 22, 2003 Posted April 22, 2003 lol, TJS u ot done haaaaaarrrrd. stold caught u out so badly. u directly contradicted urself so blatantly. anywaystold, i find the boxing hook quite nice actually, since ur a fellow wing chunner ull understand my terminology, IM me if u wnat any more information. ok now remembr a boxing hook is like a normal hook but obviously but swifter and better executed, u just have to keep with the principles. as he throws the hook, lets say a right hook, turn your whole body, rotating at the hip and let your left hand shoot out into tan sao, remmeber not to lock out the elbow. now one thing which all thes epeople are saying wrong even the wing chun guy, they are saying meet the arm here, or meet it at the wrist or whatever, dont meet the arm.....let the arm meet you. that is the wing chun way, your tan sao should be solid, maybe a little higher or lower but make sure it shoots out protecting your face, he either will miss or he will hit ur tan, in which case its all good because tan sao will not collapse. make sure tho that you do turn ur hip and your footwork is correct to eliminate the threat of getting hit at all. alos remember your right hand should have also shot out into a punch aswell and from there its easy to follow up, punch-chan sao-fak sao......whatever you want. anymore trouble let me know.
KungFuLuvva Posted April 22, 2003 Posted April 22, 2003 i thought the best block against a hook was a dip soa. dont think thats how its spelled but you wing chun pple should know wut i mean. age:16style:wing chunDon't try to predict the outcome of a fight. just let nature take its course.
TJS Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 lol, TJS u ot done haaaaaarrrrd. stold caught u out so badly. u directly contradicted urself so blatantly Taking out some pent up frustration? lol, TJS u ot done haaaaaarrrrd next time slow it down and make a coherent sentance. How did he catch me badly? what are you talking about? I made two comments in this thread and neither contradicted the other one, nice try though.. next time slow it down and come up with a real point.
Wing Chun Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 Meet Him wrist to wrist. When you block at his elbow it's alot esier to get the punch thru. you posted this then stold caught you out by posting another post that you made...... DokterVet: Yeah, that seems like the only option. But we are taught to look over the principles and theories real well before we decide to do something that kind of goes against them. TJS: I never said it was impossible. I said if you try and nlock a real boxing hook wrist to wrist you are still going to get punched somewhere in the head. so its clear for all to see how blatantly you contradicted yourself. and look at you how your trying to change the subject and go on about how im 'frustrated' you were just trying to be funny, you knew you messed up you were just trying to bring the attention away from yourself. so now you can admit you got caught out.
TJS Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 Ok lets break this down for you, I said Two things on this Thread, Meet Him wrist to wrist. When you block at his elbow it's alot esier to get the punch thru. um, no? so it's impossible to block a hook? There is no Contradiction in this, You are really stretching arent you. LOL i just realized something, when he said TJS: I never said it was impossible. I said if you try and nlock a real boxing hook wrist to wrist you are still going to get punched somewhere in the head. That was not something he was quoting me on that was his response....You are hilarious dude...funny times...so next time please get your facts stright before posting something like that.
Wing Chun Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 lol, im actually suprised it was kinda sly of me. i just wanted to see how you would react, cmon u gotta admit it was a good try. anyway, id be every interested to hear your views on this topic even though i can kinda guess what stance your gonna be taking.
shotokanwarrior Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 go under the hook (bob,weave) step to the out side of his body, his side and head should be open to counter. Where Art ends, nature begins.
Wing Chun Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 yeah even though we'll discuss this furthet another time. i read you do TKD. now from what ive chatted with you about, our lively WC versus MT debate etc. and your response to already having a direct powerful style. i would have thought doing a practical, powerful direct style of fighting would have been more your cup of tea. then why did you take TKD?
TJS Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 I think there are several option 1)meet him at his wrist and thow a Right Cross at the same time...works better for mor of a wild hook. 2) take your arm back and put it to the side of your head like a triangle without the bottom..there really isint anywhere for the punch to hit except your arm...and if they have commited to the attack you will have a nice opportunity to deliver a nice straight left. 3)bob an come up on the dead side and work the head or body 4) simply move back and let it miss.
Wing Chun Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 ive told you again. do the wing chun method. let his arm meet you. position your tan sao, if your tan sao is positioned correctly and your torsu and footwork are also correct he will not be able to make the connection. so ok you 'meet' his wrist, arm or whatever. then you dont give him a hoo, you give hima straight punch , or should i say a turing punch. your hip should generate energy into the punch while the other side of your hip in effect moves you back. but ok if you are fast enough you could simply move back and dodge it.
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