Stold Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Alright, it's obvious that size DOES indeed matter in a fight. All things being equal, the bigger man wins. How much do you think size really matters? We all have BASICALLY the same vital spots and anatomy. Now the only things that seperates fighters are skill, conditioning, reach and perhaps build. Maybe height as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-san Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 I'unno, when I'm fighting a big guy (either in terms of fat or muscle) he tends to be able to resist my strikes more than when fighting a guy more my size (less muscle, nearly no fat) where it's easier to have the strikes connect with bone. On the other hand, I've seen big guys fall like a sack of bricks over hits that a smaller guy has shaken off and kept attacking from. It all depends on the person, but generally speaking if you've got more "padding" and reach then you have a better chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickChick Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 .... and sometimes it does not! (9 pages of discussion!!!) http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=177 ... this thread may want to be closed and discussion continued on this thread in Strategies/Tactics forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensai Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 "Alright, it's obvious that size DOES indeed matter in a fight. All things being equal, the bigger man wins." But things are NEVER equal, its easy to say that size matters. But it is INDEED a collection of different factors. For example if 2 guys are the same "size", then superior techniques, balance, power, speed and the willingness to succeed are going to play a huge role. Its not a matter of size, so much as it is how the person uses their physical abilities. A short person and with less weight (eg O Sensei Ueshiba, Kano, Sun Lu Tang even Helio Gracie) used what they had to defeat much larger attackers. Although, size does have its benefits, when you do have EQUALLY amazing fighters. This was indeed the case in the great Helio Vs Kimura fight. Although I do believe that Kimura was generally better, his size did help in defeating Helio. Just IMHO ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 In a fight there are lots of variables. Size, weight and strength are all some of those variables. It helps if your variables have "high" values, but the end result is dependent on all the variables, not just one or two. Basically, all things being equal, any variable can become an advantage if it is higher than that of the opponents. Yes, size and strength can be beat by superior technique and so on. But how do you know you have superior technique? Size can be a great equalizer if your technique is slightly inferior. I concentrate on bettering all variables that can help me in a fight. That includes building strength and muscle mass too. BTW: many instructors use lot of class time on flexibility work and little strength and power work. Guess what makes you a tougher opponent to handle, if you can kick higher than the opponent, or if you are more powerful than your opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramymensa Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 My hands are swollen from writing post at this thread, present in the past. Size does matter, oh no, oh yes and so on Have fun Let's see who can write the same things twice World Shotokan Karate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowsnow Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 yes..size matters... would your rather kicked a side kick to the ribs from a 160 pound person with 25 years experience, or would you rather get side kicked in the ribs by someone who is 230 pounds with 20 years martial arts experience...and I mean fit..rather then some fat 230 pound slob.. I know I would take the kick some the slim 160 pound fellow... size matters... it's not everything...but plays a roll.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stold Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 .....It was stated in the the first post that size matters, the question is how much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 .....It was stated in the the first post that size matters, the question is how much.... Enough to make a difference. That is why the tournaments have weight classes. Here's a thought play: imagine the flyweight champion fighting the heavyweight champion. What are the chances of the smaller guy winning? I think size makes enough difference to be something to train for, assuming we are talking about muscular size here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 size matters but technique matters more "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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