kle1n Posted February 7, 2003 Posted February 7, 2003 or is win chung only boxing and using weapons please help me thx Be everything. Be nothing.
EnergyBoxer Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 First Wing Chun has no boxing in it.Your probably thinking of JKD. Wing Chun Kung Fu does teach the traditional use of various weapons such as the staff and butterfly swords though. Wing Chun Kung Fu is thought by many to be the most devestating martial art for close quarters combat. The style itself has over 300 individual movements, give or take depending on the instructor. It is broke down into three forms, Sil Lum Tao, Chum Kil , and Bil Jee. This is the style that made the "Wooden Dummy" famous, as well as being Bruce Lee's core art, the same art that was used to create Jeet Kune Do . As far as footwork, WC uses angles, as well as direct footwork, but your your goal is to remain "rooted" yet mobile and in balance. And that's just summed up, there is so much more . Kai Sai Wing Chun Kung Fu, JKD, Brazilian/Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu, Chinese Hawiian Kempo, Pressure Point/Nerve/Cavity striking, and Tai Chi.
EnergyBoxer Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 Ah, forgot to comment on "grappling". Wing Chun teaches excelent "trapping "skills, but as far as rolling around on the ground looking for a submission, no, it uses a "Style within a Style" called Chin Na , many Chinese and Japanese styles use it as well. It's a more focused on smaller joint manipulation then larger like in Brazilian Jujitsu. But this is just the way i was taught , it always depends in the teacher. Kai Sai Wing Chun Kung Fu, JKD, Brazilian/Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu, Chinese Hawiian Kempo, Pressure Point/Nerve/Cavity striking, and Tai Chi.
Stold Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 The closest you will see to grappling is probably a lop sao into a rear naked choke. Which means you shouldn't learn wing chun alone, mix it with a ground art.
kle1n Posted February 8, 2003 Author Posted February 8, 2003 hi sorry for sounding dumb but what is jkd? and is there at least a little boxing? would win chung and aikido be a good mix? Be everything. Be nothing.
Kensai Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 kle1n, JKD = Jeet Kun Do Wing Chun has no boxing in it!? It has no WESTERN boxing in it, as it is an Chinese style, but WING CHUN IS A CHINESE BOXING STYLE.
kle1n Posted February 8, 2003 Author Posted February 8, 2003 so u hit with fists that what i mean with boxing k? Be everything. Be nothing.
Kirves Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 WC has "boxing" if boxing=hitting with hands. But if we consider "boxing"=western boxing techniques, then no, WC uses totally different hand movements and not at all those of western boxing, kickboxing and so on. In WC all Techniques are direct and move alongst "the center line" and so on. The hand moves in a completely different plane, where it has the power of the body in a different way behind it. WC and western boxing methods basically contradict each other, mechanically that is.
EnergyBoxer Posted February 9, 2003 Posted February 9, 2003 LOL, You guys are right about "Chinese Boxing", hence my name, for some reason i assumed kle1n was talking about Western boxing. As far as striking in Wing Chun, Kirves explained it well, but we also use elbows, Thrusting Fingers, forearm strikes, low level kicking, and much more. Kai Sai Wing Chun Kung Fu, JKD, Brazilian/Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu, Chinese Hawiian Kempo, Pressure Point/Nerve/Cavity striking, and Tai Chi.
Light Ng Posted February 14, 2003 Posted February 14, 2003 Some schools of Wing Chun do teach ground fighting skills or Day Har Chi Gyeuk but these are not like the braz jitz techniques you see. Striking techniques are used and techniques which use the floor as a weapon e.g by quickly removing the base and smashing the opponents head/ elbows/ knees into the floor. Although some WC schools do have groundwork, this is not what they specialise in. The typical WC school will do as much ground work as a judo ka employs atemi waza. I agree with Stold that you should mix WC with a grappling art. This is what we do try to at our club - we have regular seminars with an expert in this area and train greco-roman, bjj, and other wrestling skills. Our goal is to improve our standup, clinch and ground game.
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