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How do you approach hikite (pulling hand) usage?  

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  1. 1. How is hikite used in your training?

    • Use it for power generation (structural concept/tradition)
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    • Use it to "set up" or "prepare" for techniques (structural concept/tradition)
      3
    • Use it as a chamber in kihon and kata, but don't apply it combatively (tradition)
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    • Use it for beginners, but drop it as students progress (tradition/modernization)
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    • Use it for pulling part of the opponent (combative)
      8
    • Use it for pulling hand free of entanglements (combative)
      3
    • Use it to elbow strike to the rear (combative)
      4


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On 12/1/2025 at 4:22 PM, aurik said:

This got me thinking quite a bit -- we don't frequently pull hikite in Uechi-Ryu.  For example, our kata generally start with the hands in a guard position, we chamber the strike, execute the strike, and then return to the guard position.  We do pull hikite in some of our two-person drills, when we execute a sequence of strikes.  However, it's sufficiently uncommon that we don't explain the "why"; we just do it.

However, in thinking about the reasons you posted, several of them come to mind -- specifically the grabbing and pulling your opponent, and also activating the hips.  IMO these both go hand in hand for us.  We are taught that when we receive a strike, we should grab it, pull it (to disrupt the opponent), and this also activates the hips to prime the counterstrike.

I have noticed that Uechi-Ryu tends to do a lot of isolation gripping, where they grab onto something and hold it in place, rather than pulling it. In that context, I think it makes sense to use hikite as a way of freeing up your hand to strike with it.

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Two of the most obvious explanations for hikite or “chambering” become clear when considering the strategy and range of Eastern martial arts. Particularly those of Chinese and Okinawan origins in their older pre-sport versions.

Unarmed fighting and self-defense is rarely if ever done at distances beyond arms reach and most techniques require closing distance. It makes a lot of logical sense to seize, trap and pull an attacker while striking. The other explanation for hikite is exploiting antagonist motions to train effective body mechanics and structure for maximum power generation.

This is not really unique to Eastern martial arts, but a vital concept. Every technique involves opposite  movements and push/pull is one of the most important. In Eastern arts, at least, this is more obvious in training and becomes more subtle once skill develops and when used in actual fighting or defense. 

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Hikite is NOT about power; it’s about being in close range of my attacker. Hikite aides in providing me information as to where the body is without me having to look.

With Hikite I can control, manipulate, and seize. Of course, I have to use both of my hands to do one or another. No Hikite, no acccuracy.

Imagine how kata would look like without Hikite??

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On 12/13/2025 at 7:36 PM, sensei8 said:

Hikite is NOT about power...

While an argument could be made that hikite could be used to grab, I don't think the use for power can be dismissed.  Even outside of karate where the word "hikite" isn't used, pulling one hand is indeed crucial for increasing the power of the other hand that's punching.  Without pulling that hand back, the punch is just another jab or cross.  A punch that's designed to wear your opponent down, and not knock them out.  In karate, we're always going for the knockout.  End the fight quickly and get out of there.  If we're just trying to wear the other guy down, that's not self-defense.

Here's why I don't think it's the grab that most people think when they say it is:  if someone is standing one foot away from you, you're not going to land a very powerful punch.  If you look at viral videos of fights on the internet, even untrained people know this: you have two egotistical guys in each other's faces, and the guy who swings first always either takes a big step back or pushes the other guy away before throwing that haymaker.

Your fist needs to travel a certain distance and your arm needs to be extended out by a certain amount before your punch can have much effect.  So if you grab the other guy and pull him towards you into the punch with the other hand, you're reducing the effectiveness of your own punch.

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48 minutes ago, Furinkazan said:

While an argument could be made that hikite could be used to grab, I don't think the use for power can be dismissed.  Even outside of karate where the word "hikite" isn't used, pulling one hand is indeed crucial for increasing the power of the other hand that's punching.  Without pulling that hand back, the punch is just another jab or cross.  A punch that's designed to wear your opponent down, and not knock them out.  In karate, we're always going for the knockout.  End the fight quickly and get out of there.  If we're just trying to wear the other guy down, that's not self-defense.

Here's why I don't think it's the grab that most people think when they say it is:  if someone is standing one foot awa

48 minutes ago, Furinkazan said:

Here's why I don't think it's the grab that most people think when they say it y from you, you're not going to land a very powerful punch.  If you look at viral videos of fights on the internet, even untrained people know this: you have two egotistical guys in each other's faces, and the guy who swings first always either takes a big step back or pushes the other guy away before throwing that haymaker.

Your fist needs to travel a certain distance and your arm needs to be extended out by a certain amount before your punch can have much effect.  So if you grab the other guy and pull him towards you into the punch with the other hand, you're reducing the effectiveness of your own punch.

I respect your opinions wholeheartedly; I thank you for them.

Power aided by Hikite isn’t forgotten nor is it ignored by us Shindokanists, inasmuch as how our grappling is aided by Hikite across the board. For us, our fists as well as our feet are used primarily as set-ups for our grappling; that’s us, and may not be for others.

We, you and I, might have different methodologies and ideologies concerning many different things including Hikite, and in that, I don’t discard what others have been taught across the board.

Oftentimes, MAists have yet to mature in their techniques, which is understandable because it takes a lot of time to mature in ones technique, and this by no means to be directed to you personally or anyone else here. 

Imho!!

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On 12/15/2025 at 9:47 AM, Furinkazan said:

Your fist needs to travel a certain distance and your arm needs to be extended out by a certain amount before your punch can have much effect.  So if you grab the other guy and pull him towards you into the punch with the other hand, you're reducing the effectiveness of your own punch.

I don't think this is always the case.  There are times when a technique and the target can "meet in the middle" and maximize damage.  I'll demonstrate this often with hikite using a knife hand strike to the neck.  Pulling the attacker into the that strike generates great power into a vital spot, the neck.  We do this with the hikite hand holding one of the attacker's wrists.

In Aikido we using a pulling hand quite often to aid in the completion of techniques.  It isn't necessarily met with a strike all the time (although there are times when it could), but often times it will result in using our other limb to make contact to gain kazushi.

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On 12/13/2025 at 7:36 PM, sensei8 said:

Hikite is NOT about power; it’s about being in close range of my attacker. Hikite aides in providing me information as to where the body is without me having to look.

With Hikite I can control, manipulate, and seize. Of course, I have to use both of my hands to do one or another. No Hikite, no acccuracy.

Imagine how kata would look like without Hikite??

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And why is hikite NOT about power?

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On 2/21/2026 at 5:57 PM, FierceGreenBelt said:

And why is hikite NOT about power?

I believe I already answered that.

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On 2/21/2026 at 6:57 PM, FierceGreenBelt said:

And why is hikite NOT about power?

The idea that hikite generates more punching power, while popular, doesn't hold up under scrutiny. That idea seems to have been popularized by Nakayama Masatoshi and Kanazawa Hirokazu, with MANY people referencing the famous illustration comparing the mechanics of punching to an engine, with an axle running up the center of the body, and the arms being pistons attached to it. The explanation being that pulling one hand back will make the body rotate around that axle, naturally forcing the opposite side of the body forward, generating more power, and that this is an example of Newton's Third Law of Motion (every action has an equal and opposite reaction). On the surface, that does sound logical, but there are several flaws in this premise:

  • The body does not actually have a rigid axle in the center, and doesn't rotate evenly around it, nor is power generated from that axle outward
  • The body is capable of rotating regardless of what you do with the arms
  • Pulling one arm back as you punch with the other side moves some of your mass AWAY from the target, reducing the power delivered to the target
  • This interpretation of Newton's Third Law is completely incorrect, because the push/pull mechanic does not actually represent what he meant by "equal and opposite reaction"

Additionally, we must recognize that the idea of pulling a hand to your side or hip while punching, without using that hand for a combative function, is tactically unsound. Doing this is a good way to get punched in the face, and is an example of shi-te (dead hand), which is a cardinal sin in classical karate. Of course, most karateka recognize this, but brush it off by simply saying "you do it for training, but not for real fighting." My question, then, is this; how does your martial art train for "real fighting," then? If your standard training methodology in a martial art teaches you to do something that is a dangerous bad habit for fighting, then you have to do additional, different training in order to un-learn that habit in order to be able to use your martial art, which means you are either wasting your time with training the standard methodology, or with the fighting training, depending on what you are training for.

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I think the only point I have to add, when it comes to the power angle, is that the hand is just the end of the arm. Which is to say, when we focus on the hand, it is easy to neglect what we are doing with the rest of the arm, and its connection to the body. For me, from the perspective of power and structure, hikite is not so much about the hands but the shoulders. To add to Wastelander's point: drawing the arm back dramatically on one side, and often pulling the hand to somewhere ineffective martially (Such as to the hip), often over-rotates the body and moves force away from the intended target. For me, hikite is the most basic way of learning to get the hands to work together, and part of that is to learn to have the shoulders work to deliver force forward. Which is to say, have them rounded and both activated, allowing for the compressing of the body to allow through movement of the waist, and ensuring the arm is connected to the body as it makes impact. 

Otherwise, yes, I view hikite as effectively practicing to pull or to draw the hand for other purposes such as deflection or loading up a strike. 

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