Kirves Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 "The Dillman method of pressure point FIGHTING" ..... but I find it strange to hear people say "Of course it's not for fighting" Then what the heck is it for. The titles of the books suggest it is for fighting...... Ahem... You missed the obvious. We are not talking about pressure points when we say they aren't for fighting. We are talking about no touch knockouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstick Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 [is it just me or are the martial arts people really this illiterate? Krives, I am not sure why you feel the need to say people are ignorant, or illiterate just because they may not follow your point of view. As far as your last comment about me "missing" the idea that we are talking about a no touch knock out, not pressure points......are you now saying that the no touch knock out has nothing to do with pressure points/vital points/kyusho? "The more we change, the more we stay the same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryLove Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 are you now saying that the no touch knock out has nothing to do with pressure pointsHow much pressure can you apply with no touch? https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstick Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 [KirvesHow it works is quite simple. The same points that are used with kyusho for hitting are activated. But instead of physical hit, they are activated with electricity. Well, if you go by what Kirves said above back towards the start of this thread, then I guess you do not need to apply pressure. I will wait for him to explain that. "The more we change, the more we stay the same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 Well, if you go by what Kirves said above back towards the start of this thread, then I guess you do not need to apply pressure. I will wait for him to explain that. I was talking strictly in the sense of this topic, I do believe pressure points can be used in a fight, but not without touching them. I have seen Dillman teach pressure point fighting, and whenever he taugh actual fighting with them, he touched them. My guess is that the books you mentioned also show touching the points, or are the fighting techniques "no-touch" also? My guess is they don't show no-touch knockouts as actual fighting or self-defence moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 Personally, I don't fully believe No touch "KO". But in China, some Chinese Kung Fu may consider this is possible. Always these may involve Chi Kung, Qi Kung or internal breathing control. Certain training like "Well hitting kung" or "Candle light hitting kung" This is traditional training of Shaolin also. But usually they emphasis this may take over 10 or even 25 years hard work to success. Surely, I think this may be possible since potential power of human being has not fully exploited. But first, no one would spend long time to prove this. Second, incorrect or overload practise of Chi Kung for No-touch KO may lead to irritate the electrial current of body or "Chi". This may lead to mental illness. Darkness grants me pair of dark black eye,Yet I determine to look for Brightness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstick Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 No , there are no pictures in the one book I have. "The more we change, the more we stay the same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Ask Dillmans Student Ryan Parker how well these things work. Oh wait he got thrown and choked out in the First round in UFC 7.... After Alot of talk about how a pressure point striker would walk through the UFC...THings like this work in seminars when people let you do them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryLove Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 I suppose I should ask every Jujitsu student that ever lost a match how well Jujitsu works? I suppose boxing doesn't work becuase Tyson's opponent the other night was a boxer and got dropped in under a minute. "so-in-so lost, so everything he thinks works does not" is an absurd and rediculious statement. If you believe that a valid standard you are, to be blunt, a child or an idiot; and if you do not, then you are deliberately lying to garner responses (trolling) BTW, who here said a pressure point fighter would walk through a UFC? I must have missed that assertion. https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRo Posted February 24, 2003 Author Share Posted February 24, 2003 TJS no one is saying it will work in a fight! infact everyone agrees that it has no use at all in a fight, we are just saying that it can or cant be done. please read the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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