Kaju_influenced Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Let me help verify what Sifu Dan said about kAli According to Guro Dan Inosanto Kali is a contraction of two words Kamut (hand) and Lihut (motion). Tuhon Leo Gaje believes that the word Kali comes from the sword "kalis", and from the Hindu God of destruction, Kali. It's roots can be traced back to the 9th century Sri Visayan Empire of South East Asia. One of the accepted historical versions has it that 12 Datus of Borneo brought kali to the Maharlikas (Southern Philipines). I can't really awnser a question that dates back so far in history n e ways LOL "Sweat more in the dojo,bleed less in the street"Kajukenbo fighters axiom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryLove Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 there is more in common between silat and kuntaw, which are basically the same thing, regardless of what the dutch try to tell you. And which Silat? I've seen Seni-gayong, which looks nothing like tjikulung, which looks nothing like tjimande, which looks nothing like harimau. Since "silat" doesn't look like "silat", how can it look like kuntaw in any general sense. https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntawguro Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I have train both in Kuntaw, and in many forms of Silat they have similar cadences, stature, and movements. But, A Corvette has 4 tires so does a VW bug but they are different vehicles. Having trained in Malaysia, Philippines, and with many different instructors, I can safely say that Kuntaw has a base in Silat, Kali, and Buno. The most valuable things in life are not held in your hands, but , in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntawguro Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Oh, I also forgot to mention that GM Carlito Lanada started to change his KUNTAW art in the 60's thinkiing that they would be invited and allowed to participate more in the Asian games. I come from the old school and have distanced myself from the karate like Kuntaw ng Pilipinas and have stayed with the more fluid dancelike Maharlika Kuntaw. The most valuable things in life are not held in your hands, but , in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh1nic Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 I've really enjoyed training in an offshoot of Kali called Pananadata. Although Pananadata involves a variety of weapons most of my training has centered around single and two stick techniques. It can be a great workout. It doesn't look like it takes much energy to swing the sticks but try doing a two stick workout with a partner hitting into each others sticks and in five minutes you'll be feeling the effects . It's a great means of developing coordination, balance and foot work and many of the forms have empty hand applications. "The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?" Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntawguro Posted May 31, 2003 Share Posted May 31, 2003 In Kuntaw we have 24 different drills with sticks, going through the drills for a single set to the next set will definitely wear you down a bit , but it really builds up your wrists and your endurance. The most valuable things in life are not held in your hands, but , in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martial_Artist Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Pananandata. Is the corret spelling. Comes from the root word: sandata meaing weapon. "Sa kaunti ng mga tao rito sa daigdig, nakapagpagulat kung bakit ang daming wala pang muwang sa sanlibutan kahi't may gulang na nga." MA "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh1nic Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Martial_Artist Yes, the spelling is correct. The principle instructor is Professor Amante Marinas. The art does utilize many weapons including sticks of differing lengths, the ring, balisong, horsewhip, etc. My training has primarily centered around single and two stick techniques taught by Grandmaster Bob Malvagno. "The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?" Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martial_Artist Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 You forgot an 'n' in your original post. Pananadata doesn't have a meaning. 'Pan' is a filipino conjugation for a word to give an expansive meaning. Sandata means weapon. Pansandata would mean "pertaining to weapons", and pananandata means something akin to "weaponry or things dealing with weapons" MA "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh1nic Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Good eyes Martial_Artist . Thanks for the breakdown of the meaning of the word. "The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?" Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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