kungfufan Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 Is Nerve locking/Nerve blocking Real? Like the stuff in the movies where if a pressure point is pressed you can disable an opponents arm or prevent him from moving? Just curious...
omnifinite Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 There are plenty of ways to disable an opponents arm or prevent him from moving with pressure points. They all hurt like hell though. Someone (I think it was Kensai?) here mentioned an extremely advanced Aikidoka using a ki strike to prevent a person from breathing momentarily. I don't know how far that person's capabilities go in that area, or how far it's possible to go, but maybe the lore and movie exaggeration you're talking about stems from those sorts of things. 1st Dan HapkidoColored belts in Kempo and Jujitsu
Kensai Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 Yeah, it was amazing the guy went blue. I wish I could do that. Well maybe in 40 years or so. In answer to kungfufan, I believe that it can be done, especially in the calm atmosphere of the dojo. However when facing an unpleasant character in the street it becomes more difficult. When my Sensei does such an attack and stops the attacker from breathing, it is a combination of factors. One is Ki (which I believe excists), second the a great power of the blow itself, and third the the area in which the blow hits. When it comes to Aikido Pressure points, they are not taught as specific places, like in Tai Chi for example. The attacks are in such places where there are a collection of points, which in a "real" fight you are more likely to hit, than one specific point on the back of the neck. I think pressure point and nerve locking is very real, because it is what Aikido is based on in terms of science. But it takes many years to become so profictent that you could do it against a fully resisting real attacker. Hope this helps.
monkeygirl Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 Nerve locking is very real. You'll hear a lot of discussion on pressure points in the forums. There are three applications that I know of: Blocking, Pinching and Pressing. Blocking is used when your block activates the nerve. Say for example someone throws a wide "haymaker" punch. If I do a double armbar block (blocking with the pinky-side of my forearms, both forearms vertical), my forearms are meant to hit the nerves on my attacker's bicep and wrist/forearm. "Shocking" these nerves will cause the attackers arm to go completely numb. If he was holding a weapon, he wouldn't be anymore Pinching is just that: pinching the sensitive areas such as high on the inner leg (try it ) or underneath the bicep. Pressing is when you apply steady pressure to a nerve. Take, for example, the nerve behind your ears, just behind the jaw-joint. It's a little difficult to find, but when pressed correctly, can immobilize the body briefly. I say "briefly", because after a while the victim of the pressing will want to get you off of them...they'll still be in a great deal of pain, though. As you can see, these are just different ways of going about the same thing. They may not all be practical in a street fight if you don't know what you're doing, but they do work. There are, however, some people that can withstand these pressure points through sheer will and tensing of muscles. But for the most part they work. I noticed that this is your first post, kungfufan. Why don't you hop on over to the Introductions forum and introduce yourself? 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
ZR440 Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 Pressure point tactics can be a great addition to any MA style, but to be effective takes a lot of practice. The art of applying pressure point techniques also was not intended to be purely hurtful. It can also be used as a healing method and is related to accupuncture. According to pressure point experts, there are certain times of the day where certain points can be more vunerable than others. Some strikes, and I use the term strikes because that is the commonmost form of delivery, might not affect the person for many hours later. Part of my training involves pressure point strikes and pinches. They are very effective if performed correctly, but that can only be done with proper instruction and lots of practice. It's happy hour somewhere in the world.
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 we have nerve locking in bjj, its pretty cool you don't need to use alot of force either, check out the achillis ankle lock at https://www.bjj.org "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
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