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OK, I've decided to reject the name "Greenoch", amusing as it was, for something in a similar vein but without the comic connections....

 

... the name I'm pretty much deciding to go for (I'd like to hear people's reactions, however trivial something like a name is to the whole of the style) is gunlann. This comes from the Scottish Gaelic words gun "without", and lann "blade" ... "without blade" signifying "unarmed" (I guess a bit like "kara te" being "empty hand" signifying "unarmed"). The vowel in the gun part should NOT be pronounced as in the english word "gun" but more to rhyme with "good" or "book".

 

OK?

Currently: Kickboxing and variants.

Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.

Posted

Good idea iolair, seeing as you have a good amount of experience and knowledge.

 

However, why name it "without-blade" when you teach armed/bladed combat? :)

 

Good luck!

Jack

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  • 4 weeks later...
Posted
Good idea iolair, seeing as you have a good amount of experience and knowledge.

 

However, why name it "without-blade" when you teach armed/bladed combat? :)

 

Good luck!

Sorry, I didn't see this reply before!

 

Thanks for the feedback.... the rationale behind teaching dagger/knife and cudgel/stick fighting is not to produce expert fighters in these areas, but instead to promote understanding of how these weapons are used and practice defending/sparring against a skilled attacker using them. Knife vs Knife would not be taught, for example... Some stick fighting is included at higher grades, as there are many stick-like objects that might be at hand, that you could use as an aid to streetfighting or self defence.

Currently: Kickboxing and variants.

Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.

Posted (edited)
your basically ripping off bjj, boxing, and muay thai/tkd kicks, repackaging it, and calling it something else......

 

many guys do this today, and I dont know why.

Yes, you could look at it like that...

 

The difference here is:

 

1) to try to take the minimum number of techniques at each distance in order to be effective, so that these small number of techniques can be learnt very well - and also that the outline of the system can be learnt quickly.

 

This contrasts with most other martial arts (boxing and muay thai are exceptions) that tend to have dozens and dozens of techniques ... TKD, Karate "waste" a lot of time on high kicks and jumping kicks that are useful so rarely that it would have been better to spend the time reinforcing basics.

 

2) A strong emphasis on the basics (groundwork, footwork, conditioning, defence, falling). Many martial arts concentrate heavily on techniques at the expense of other fighting skills - particularly footwork. (Boxing is the only significant exception I can think of).

 

3) As for "ripping off" other styles - well, we all have the same sort of bodies and there's only so many things you can do with it. Many martial arts have similar techniques anyway. For the record though, the choice of techniques most heavily influenced by (more or less in order) boxing, judo, savate, karate, fencing, western amateur wrestling, and muay thai. I certainly was NOT influenced by TKDs bias towards (rather impractical) high kicks.

 

To reiterate, the basic philosophy of Gunlann is to teach

 

1) The MINIMUM number of techniques required to be truly effective at EVERY range.

 

2) The BASIC FIGHTING SKILLS such as footwork and groundwork.

Edited by iolair

Currently: Kickboxing and variants.

Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.

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As several people here have sounded interested, I thought I'd keep you up to date. I've just completed a first complete draft of the grading requirements - would be interested to hear your comments. By the way, I haven't decided what the colours represent yet (e.g. if it's a belt or something else...)

Requirements to Achieve Grade

 

(Grading candidates may be asked to display any or all requirements from previous grade levels. The only "double-grading" that may be attempted is for a beginner to attempt to grade straight to Grade 2 instead of Grade 1. Whether a candidate has successfully performed the techniques or performed adequately in sparring is solely at the examiner's discretion.)

 

Grade 1: Red

 

Fighting Stance

 

Stepping and Sidestepping

 

Upper Parry

 

Lead Jab to head

 

Lead Jab to body

 

Rear cross to head

 

Front rising knee kick

 

Rear rising knee kick

 

Deliver techniques to pads held by moving partner, 2 x 2 minutes

 

10 Push-Ups (1 second up motion, 4 seconds down motion)

 

Run 1 Mile

 

Grade 2: Red

 

Rear cross to body

 

Lead hook punch to head

 

Lead round knee kick

 

Rear round knee kick

 

Lead front kick to body

 

Rear front kick to body

 

Lower Parry

 

Deliver techniques and combinations to pads held by moving partner, 2 x 2 minutes

 

20 Push-Ups (1 second up motion, 4 seconds down motion)

 

Run 1 Mile in 9 minutes or less

 

Grade 3: Red

 

Breakfalls (Front, Rear, Side, Rolling)

 

Hip Throw

 

Outer Reaping Throw

 

Lead round kick to leg

 

Rear round kick to leg

 

Lead side kick to knee

 

Leg Block

 

Held Grade 2 for at least 3 months

 

Deliver techniques and combinations to pads held by moving partner, 2 x 3 minutes

 

Demonstrate awareness of self-protection/self-defence issues

 

Grade 4: Blue

 

Lunging

 

Slips and Laybacks

 

Ducking

 

Lead round elbow

 

Rear uppercut to body

 

Rear uppercut to head

 

Lead backfist

 

Rear backfist

 

Held Grade 3 for at least 3 months

 

10 Knuckle Push-Ups (1 second up motion, 4 seconds down motion)

 

Evading an attacker using body movements only: 1 x 3 minutes

 

Punches only Semi-Contact Sparring: 3 x 3 minutes

 

Run 1 Mile in 7 Minutes or Less

 

Grade 5: Blue

 

Shoulder Throw

 

Mount Hold

 

Scarf Hold

 

Cross Body Hold

 

Escape from Holds

 

Transitions between holds

 

Return to standing from ground

 

Rear rising elbow to body

 

Rear rising elbow to head

 

Held Grade 4 for at least 4 months

 

20 Knuckle Push-Ups (1 second up motion, 4 seconds down motion)

 

Punches, Elbows and Throws Semi-Contact Sparring: 3 x 3 minutes

 

Groundwork "Sparring" (no submissions): 3 x 3 minutes

 

Grade 6: Blue

 

Body drop throw

 

Cross body arm lock

 

Naked choke

 

Defence against chokes

 

Lead back elbow to body

 

Rear back elbow to body

 

Lead back elbow to head

 

Rear back elbow to head

 

Held Grade 5 for at least 4 months

 

Punches, Elbows and Throws Semi-Contact Sparring: 3 x 3 minutes

 

Groundwork "Sparring" (no submissions): 3 x 3 minutes

 

Grade 7: Green

 

Figure-4 Arm Lock

 

Collar Choke

 

Lead round kick to body

 

Rear round kick to body

 

Lead side kick to body

 

Lead back kick to body

 

Lead front kick to head

 

Rear front kick to head

 

Age at least 16 years old

 

Held Grade 6 for at least 4 months

 

Striking Techniques semi-contact sparring 5 x 3 minutes

 

Groundwork "Sparring" (including submissions): 3 x 3 minutes

 

Grade 8: Green

 

Leg Triangle choke

 

Shoulder Wheel throw

 

Lead round kick to head

 

Rear round kick to head

 

Lead side kick to head

 

Lead back kick to head

 

Lead hook kick to head

 

Held Grade 7 for at least 6 months

 

Striking Techniques semi-contact sparring 5 x 3 minutes

 

Groundwork "Sparring" (including submissions): 3 x 3 minutes

 

"Anything goes" semi-contact sparring: 3 x 3 minutes

 

Grade 9: Black

 

High level of speed and technical accuracy with all techniques

 

Age at least 18 years old

 

Held Grade 8 for at least 6 months

 

Run 1 Mile in 6 Minutes or Less

 

Striking Techniques semi-contact sparring 3 x 3 minutes

 

Ground grappling sparring 3 x 3 minutes

 

"Anything goes" semi-contact sparring: 3 x 3 minutes

 

"Anything goes" full-contact sparring (with full protective gear) 3 x 1 minute

 

"Anything goes" semi-contact sparring against 2 attackers: 3 x 1 minute

 

Grade 10: Grey

 

Very high level of speed and technical accuracy with all techniques

 

Fighting with and defence against dagger

 

Fighting with and defence against cudgel

 

Held Grade 9 for at least 1 year

 

Kicking Techniques only full-contact sparring 3 x 3 minutes

 

Throws and takedowns sparring 3 x 3 minutes

 

Ground grappling sparring 3 x 3 minutes

 

"Anything goes" full-contact sparring (with full protective gear) 3 x 3 minutes

 

"Anything goes" full-contact sparring (grappling gloves, groin protector, gum-shield) 3 x 1 minute

 

"Anything goes" semi-contact sparring against 3 attackers: 3 x 1 minute

 

"Anything goes" full-contact sparring (with full protective gear) against 3 attackers: 1 minute

 

Grade 11: White - Instructor

 

Age at least 20 years old

 

Held Grade 10 for at least 1 year

 

Hold a current first aid qualification

 

Lead 6 training sessions under the supervision of an existing instructor

 

1200 word essay on relevant topic agreed with existing instructor

 

Grade 12: White with Red - Head Instructor

 

No further requirements - white with red signifies the head instructor within a school

I know some people get touchy about age limits on grades, but basically they are introduced because of safety issues with using chokes in sparring and with full contact sparring. The 1 minute full contact bouts at higher grades are basically because you should be exerting yourself at a level in these that you wouldn't last longer than 1 minute....

 

Oh yes, I know I said there would only be a small number of techniques... look carefully and you will see that there are not many techniques there, but they are listed seperately for lead-rear or leg/body/head target.

Currently: Kickboxing and variants.

Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.

Posted
you decided on what kinda uniform you gonna have?
Actually no, I'm still completely clueless about this. Well, mostly clueless....

 

There's a couple of grappling techniques that really require a grip on clothing, so some sort of strong material (eg. Judo gi) would be an advantage.

 

On the other hand, I'd like to stay away from oriental type uniforms if I can, as this isn't an oriental art (although it takes some inspiration from oriental arts).

 

Using standard martial arts belts is probably a good idea, as everyone is used to what martial arts belts look like, and this could help make the style accessible to newcomers... Although you can't get grey belts, it's the easiest thing in the world to get a white belt and dye it!

 

The temptation at the moment is do go the easy route : training shoes, long trousers(pants), plain T-shirt and belt.... but still undecided. This isn't really a uniform at all though, and I like uniforms as they produce a formal atmosphere that can be more conducive to getting on with training seriously.

 

Training shoes rather than bare feet is the only definite decision so far.... (though they might be removed for safety in groundwork). But if you ever have to fight in real life, you'll have shoes on, so you may as well train this way.

Currently: Kickboxing and variants.

Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.

  • 7 months later...
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Since Iolair is still on this site, I just thought I would ask how things were going on making his art.

If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.


Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate.

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