aes Posted January 16, 2003 Posted January 16, 2003 I have been studying Shroin-Ryu Karate for just shy of 1/2 a year now. A co-worker of mine has just started taking Shotokan. Is there any similarity between these styles? Do they have similar lineage? I am told they both have high stances, but other than that I am not sure. Thanks Al 43 Years oldBlue Belt (7th Kyu) Shorin-ryuRoberts Karate
Kensai Posted January 16, 2003 Posted January 16, 2003 Shotokan has high stances?! Shotokan is the king of low stances. I thought both founders of Shotokan and Shorin Ryu learn from Sensei Itosu.
aes Posted January 17, 2003 Author Posted January 17, 2003 Sorry, the new guy said his stances were high but he had only had one or two classes and might not have been very objective. 43 Years oldBlue Belt (7th Kyu) Shorin-ryuRoberts Karate
Kyle-san Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 Shotokan is the king of low stances. Indeed. Shotokan is all about low stances and one-hit finishes. There's a lot of power in the system, but less focus on speed. It's also very linear and that can get you into some problems. Most instructors don't have grappling experience, so you get the short end of the stick there. There's also a danger of damaging the knees if you aren't careful with your stances and some kicks. However, if you get a good instructor Shotokan leaves you a very powerful practitioner and your stances are generally very strong. Especially when you rise up to a higher stance than traditionally used in class. Still, the grappling and linear weaknesses don't lend well to open tournaments (if that's what you're looking at).
SaiFightsMS Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 Shotokan and Shorin ryu are very similar. The basic differences come in the use of Okinawan vs. Japanese terms. They start with the same basic katas: Fyukyu katas (Taikyuko's), Pinan (Heian), and Naihanchi (Tekki's). Shorin ryu stances are a bit higher and you are likely to see cat stance in shorin ryu where you would see a kokutsu dachi in shotokan.
aes Posted January 17, 2003 Author Posted January 17, 2003 Well it is my friend that is in Shotokan, I am in Shorin Ryu which is high stances and from my 1/2 year in it, speed and power are included. My Dojo adds Goshin Jitsu to it as well so some grappling but the main focus is ending the fight before it gets to the ground. Thanks for your comments. Al 43 Years oldBlue Belt (7th Kyu) Shorin-ryuRoberts Karate
SaiFightsMS Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 There are enough similarities in the two styles (I have trained in both) that you should be able to train with your friend. You might find that the two of you enjoy comparing what you are learning.
wcnavstar Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 Just some historical Info, The founder of Shotokan Karate is Gichin Funakoshi, who was a practitioner of many Okinawan styles includin Shorin Ryu. The problem is that from Okinawa to Japan, it was drasticly changed by Funakoshi's students. Most of whom were college students. Very Respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
ramymensa Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 Shorin Ryu is a great style and you and your friend could indeed spend some time together. It's interesting seeing another style that is similar but also different. I had a very interesting discussion with a guy hho studies Kyokushin. It's interesting how things are done different some times and in other ocasions it's very alike. About Shotokan ... it emphasizes speed. It's just only those who have studied for some years develop such a speed. At first they are all clumsy, but repetition makes it perfect. World Shotokan Karate
panginoon Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 I have been studying Shroin-Ryu Karate for just shy of 1/2 a year now. A co-worker of mine has just started taking Shotokan. Is there any similarity between these styles? Do they have similar lineage? I am told they both have high stances, but other than that I am not sure. Thanks ............................................................ Take out all the bunkai out of the Shorin-ryu Kata, and add pointlessly low-stances. Then stop all circular movement, and replace it with linear. Next take out all the techniques there are in Shorin and rely only on brute force. Then you will get Shotokan. Shotokan is "modified" Shorin-ryu, I studied the version Funikoshi was taught (Kobayoshi Shorin-ryu) and looking at Shotokan, I can not believe that a person would willingly destroy a system like that.
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