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i had a kneebar on the guy, this was my first time using one, and i started to apply pressure, but he wouldn't tap so i let go, because i was told, i could damage the knee withough any previous warning, like the guy could feel no pain than CRACK!!!

 

IS THIS TRUE ?????

"When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,

and most people don't even know how to swim"

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Posted
It should hurt at least a little before any type of break occurs, but it doesn't take much when you mess around with the knees. A little twist and that's it.
Posted
Knee bars are even worse than arm bars, someone can have their knee damaged without even knowing it until later on - so, IMO, I reckon if you've clearly got their knee and u can apply pressure, then it's as good as having them tapped out.
Posted

SO I SHOULD HAVE LEG GO AS SOON AS I KNOW I GOT IT SECURE

 

ok i understand, even though he didn't tap i still won , i understand

"When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,

and most people don't even know how to swim"

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You have to be very careful with kneebars, they're very dangerous, they are not like armbars that you feel a lot of pain, and then "crack", knees are very delicated, and when you feel the pain maybe you are already with your knee broken.

 

In fact, somebody told me, that in the Gracies academies, they don't teach it to people until brown belt

Valencia - Venezuela.

Posted

they teach ankle locks and achillis locks in purple belt and heel hook, knee bars in brown, but thats only at really hardcore strict academies, no one actually follows those requirements, (maybe in brazil) i have been studying bjj for four months, and i know the ankle lock

 

achillis lock

 

knee bar

"When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,

and most people don't even know how to swim"

Posted

I have about 3-4 months in BJJ and my instructor already teach me basic ankle lock too..

 

But, if you go to a competition and you're a blue belt for example, you can't win by kneebar for example (i guess, i'm not sure).

Valencia - Venezuela.

Posted
that depends on the rules of that specific competition

"When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,

and most people don't even know how to swim"

Posted

sure you can win by kneebar,

 

but in most comps you can't use neck cranks and heel hooks, but thats for blue belt and under

"When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,

and most people don't even know how to swim"

Posted

My instructor doesn't like to take risk with the kneebars...as soon as someone is able to put it right, he stop the fight.

 

Kneebars can be devasting if you know how to put them right.

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