thaiboxerken Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 This just adds to the fact that black-belt means nothing outside of the Dojo.. and sometimes id doesn't mean anything inside the Dojo. Honorary Black Belt is BS... they should've given a Certificate of Appreciation instead. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moobrack Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 remember, we are all different and we all have different views and also to be open minded of what other people have to say. Anthony Bullock1st Dan Black Belt - Shotokan Karate5th Kyu Yellow Belt - Aiki-Jutsuhttps://www.universaldojo.com Coming Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris from CT Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 OK. I'm going though previous posts and I'm fired up. Not a good combination. I can respect Moobrack for his view and agree if you've spent your lifetime helping the martial artsyou should recive a token of appreciation, but I agree wholheartedly with Rushman and Lori here. Our society puts too much emphasis into a black piece of fabfic that goes around your waist. If I take a person's white belt, put it on and this other person puts on my black belt, has either one of us changed? A Black Belt (or any belt for that matter) means as much as you put into it. Nothing more, nothing less. take care Chris LaCavaJung Ki Kwan of Connecticut"Man is born soft and supple,in death he is hard and rigid..." LaoTzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babysteffee Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 I kinda think it's a good idea to award "honorary" black belts...same with degrees, to people who deserve it for work they've done that doesn't usually meet the standards for whatever award is being dished out... Not sure that he should be teaching the class though...and certainly not ordering people to do push-ups and stuff...how ridiculous. But an "honorary" black belt, or degree, or whatever, is just that...honorary, not real...given as a small token of appreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 To give him an honorary belt is fine. If he has done a service to the school, great. If he starts wearing it and gives orders, that is wrong. It is a disgrace to the style, the Martial Arts, and more importantly, the people who worked their lives earning that belt and some asshole with a lot of money just gets one thrown at him. They should make him go for a belt test for a yellow belt and lets see how well he does. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moobrack Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 remember, honorary means in some context the word honor.The reciever of the black belt must have been HONOURABLE to his/her school. Anthony Bullock1st Dan Black Belt - Shotokan Karate5th Kyu Yellow Belt - Aiki-Jutsuhttps://www.universaldojo.com Coming Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortdog Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 that is really stupid, though i can see why it happens. i agree that it is supposed to be framed and not worn like he really earned it. but a 3rd dan?! that is insane it should have been 1st. any one who earns more than a 2nd has my respect. it takes what? like 25-30 years from white to 3rd dan? (depending on the style) it is absurd (that is a word no one has used to describe this situation yet ) SHORTDOG In the road of life there are many paths. If you don't know where you are going, any one will take you there.join me in my quest to aquire knowledge of all martial arts of the world athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldofmartialartsor email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taezee Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 while a diploma for an honorary black belt may be appropriate for someone who desereves to be honored wheter it be support for a dojang....a community leader...mabye some parents who give that axtra something to the dojangs family..its just symbolic.. there is no reason for this person to even don a dobok or a belt much less come in and start giving orders...there is something very wrong with that dojang and the instructor if he is allowing this to take place Javier l Rosario instructor taekwondo/hapkidounder master Atef s Himaya"whenever youre lazy enough not to train .someone, somewhere is training very hard to kick your *" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joecooke007 Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 That's horrible! People really work for a black belt. You should not be just awarded one out of the blue. It's disrespectful and outright wrong! Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR440 Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 This topic reminds me of how the US Army decided to give everyone Black Berets, which were normally reserved for Special Forces. It's happy hour somewhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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