AngryMatt Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I think a guy trained for combat only would be better suited in, you know, a real fight over a guy trained in MMA for competition. Why? Because there are rules in competition and you're drilled over and over again about those rules.That being said, MMA fighters would be damn good in a fight and I would not dare go up against them. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness."-The Book of the Void (A Book of Five Rings)"Men don't start fights, but they do finish them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I disagree with Zero on a few points when concerning Street Fighting. Street Fighting is a term I think there needs to be a clear definition before discussing the types of skills needed to survive an attack. Are you being attacked with a knive, a bat, club, etc.. MMA for UFC don't train you in weapons, why would they? So I would say the hand to hand skills for a one one match are pretty good, but the street and the ring are very different. I wouldn't want to get into a grappling match with no shirt and shorts on the street if I could help it. I see the same patterns BJJers want to go to the ground and Strikers want to finish it standing. These training habits can be used against you on the street, especially if someone wants to kill you. In the street the attackers intent maybe to kill you, not just to win by submission or knockout. The person on the street may have a weapon hidden or a buddy waiting to stomp your head into the ground. So basically the way you fight would be very different and the level of alertness and observation of the environment are some of many factors not taken into concideration by Sport MA's. So let's not be close minded about what other MA's have to offer. Remember your best chance for surviving an attack on the street is to see it before it happens. It is my opinion that the only real factor that MMA has over TMA's is it's training methods, not it's techniques. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronbvp Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Why do you street fight? For fun? Are you an aggressor, or do you merely get attacked all the time? I'm guessing you can't walk away when someone calls you out. Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Crimson Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 UFC fighters use what works best in their environment. Fighting in the Octagon one on one is still a controlled situation. Granted, its about as close to a real street fight as you can get.But you're one on one. You don't have to worry about your "attacker" having a buddy waiting behind you to jump you. You don't have to worry about weapons. You can grapple on the mat which is not as hard as the paved road. A fight stops when one is cut too badly to continue. You fight a certain number of rounds that are timed. A real street fight is not timed, does not have rounds, does not end with a bad cut, and is fought in an area much different than the octagon. Leaving the fight is not an option in the UFC, but in a street fight you have the option at times to flight rather than fight. A am a big fan of the UFC, but I realize there is more to martial arts than the UFC. "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride, and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." -Alabama Coaching Legend Paul "Bear" Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Why does who street fight? "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR33T GUY Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Why does who street fight?I’ve been in a lot of street fights, far more than my martial art peers. Most were when I was much younger. I’ve only been in three fights in the last ten years. I’ve also trained in different martial arts some were TMA and others were SMA, I consider myself a MMA even though I don’t compete. A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronbvp Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 OK. What did you learn? What was different? Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR33T GUY Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 OK. What did you learn? What was different?Well regarding the UFC, The UFC isn’t like a street fight at all. But the rules are sufficiently limited that the UFC is a good demonstration of which techniques generally work the best in a street fight. The best martial arts are the ones with the best collection of techniques. The strategies used by competitors in the UFC however aren’t necessarily good strategies to have on the street. I don’t think that the UFC or MMA is a style, not yet anyway. A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovine king Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 actually, i would say that MMA has become a style.go to any MMA gym in the uk and you would most probably see the same thing being trained. earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronbvp Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Str33tguy, what did you find in the street? What do people do that differs from MMA? What do good street fighters do and bad street fighters do? Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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