EnergyBoxer Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 In my experience, with or without the clinch, the knees get the job done. The clinch is mainly a defensive tech. Knees and elbows follow cuz thats the range your at. But in a street fight, while BOTH of his hands are clinched around your neck you just have to go to his eyes or groin with your two free hands, hopefully you beat the knee. Kai Sai Wing Chun Kung Fu, JKD, Brazilian/Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu, Chinese Hawiian Kempo, Pressure Point/Nerve/Cavity striking, and Tai Chi.
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 if you know how to use the clinch great, if you don't and you get there your in trouble, but im pretty sure most martial arts do clinch training or in other words close quarter combatives "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
Venezolano Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 I definately would use a clinch, i can give my opponent strikes with my knees, clinch is very important Valencia - Venezuela.
Karateka_latino Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 Oh the Clinch... Very important to learn how to fight in the clinch.. a person how knows how to elbow and knee on the clinch is very dangerous.. not to mention the set up for Takedown and throws.
delta1 Posted February 22, 2003 Posted February 22, 2003 I like to get in close, but I avoid tieing up my weapons in a clinch. In close weapons are awesome; knees, elbows, ridge hnads, forearms, insteps, head... everything is a weapon in close, including your stance. Knee strikes are effective, and the groin and abdomen are obvious targets. But don't forget about attacking his base. A god hard knee strike to his quadricep can seriously compromise his foundation. If you have a good leg check in place, it is sometimes possible to roll up your stance and buckle his knee. Freedom isn't free!
Stold Posted February 23, 2003 Posted February 23, 2003 So far, every person that isn't twice my size who has attempted to knee me has been hip thrown to the ground and mounted. ^______^
Ali Posted February 24, 2003 Posted February 24, 2003 Knee from Clinch. If doing sparring under Sanda rule, I would sweep other' leg if control by opponent' neck wrestling. I would probably block the knee with both hands and take the chance to sweep his balancing leg. Of course, my forearm can bear only 2 to 3 knee even I do some Wing Chun to strengthen them. Besides competition, I usually would not do that. Too dangerous. From sparring with my friend, they have their way to tackle neck wrestling and then body slam. He is doing Baji Fist. If in real fight, I would prefer a combo of Thai low kick to Knee kick without clinch. Step back and keep puching. Darkness grants me pair of dark black eye,Yet I determine to look for Brightness
fskarateoz Posted March 1, 2003 Posted March 1, 2003 I wouldn't clinch for the groin factor... Knee yes, but not a silly clinch like u see in Thai fights. Say you were coming in off a jab and faked a cross to his face, grabbing him somewhere n then driving a knee into his stomach (just as easy)... he's bent over so now you would put a downward elbow into the back of his head to drop him... If u somehow get into a clinch situation you should go side-on and use a leg-roll, or reverse hip-throw to get him on the ground and either stomp him or mount and pummel... much much MUCH better than clinching. fskarateoz I'm a pretty straight forward guy, and people often tell me that i remind them of someone they once met... Although not necessarily face to face...
MuayThai Fighter Posted March 2, 2003 Posted March 2, 2003 i have nothing against kneeing in a clinch if its best for the situation but i prefer shin's and elbows. if your clinched, sometimes its best to try to control your opponents head. I'm the same way,I also don't have a problem with clinching,but I'd also rather use my elbows if that close to the person.
MuayThai Fighter Posted March 2, 2003 Posted March 2, 2003 Well since Thai fighters do clinching and knees,I would use it if the situation calls for it,however I'd rather be able to keep my opponent at distance then have to get that close.In a real situation,I'd rather take his knees out or at least sweep his feet. Of course this isn't always possible,so at times I'd probably do jabs,right cross,and if person throws a kick avoid it and then shoot in to get the clinch and start using knees or shoot in and flip him to ground and continue to wrestle from there. Grabbing a shirt in a fight is stupid,what if the shirt rips?Then he can get a hold of you.I'd rather grab the actual person then the shirt on him.Besides if you grab the person when in close quarters,you have better control of the situation,then if you grab any piece of clothing. If I want to use his clothing to fight then I'd only use his shirt to pull over his head so he can't see what is coming,but will definitely feel it.From there I could knee,upper cut,choke etc.
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