MatsuShinshii Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 How many have heard of this and how many understand this? The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure. Charles R. Swindoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushybees Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I shant lie, I had to google it but yes I do know what it is and do understand it. We sometimes incorrectly use the term kime.It's basically aligning the body and creating momentary tension to efficiently transfer our mass during striking followed by immediate dropping of energy to relax and not hinder any successive movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Control!!Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time, i.e., for a firm stance, a powerful punch, or a strong deflection/receiving; not before, and not after!!To soon, useless...too late, useless; wasted movements...wasted energy...wasted life!! Knowing just when to relax and when to tense!! It's an everlasting endeavor for a many Okinawan practitioners; a lifetime of perfecting.Chinkuchi can be described as the Yin and Yang of control; either one can or one can't!! **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushybees Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time.I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Maximus Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 “Chinkuchi” along with the associated concepts of “gamaku” and “muchimi” are not usually known outside Okinawan karate. Even in Okinawa few sensei go into detail on these concepts except for a few seniors. They cannot be blamed though, because explaining these concepts is not easy and requires an advanced knowledge and understanding of physical anatomy(musculature and skeleton) as well as body-mechanics.After a mere 5 years of training it in under an Okinawan sensei who insists on it, all attempts to put it into a coherent explanation are simplistic at best. All that can be said with this level of understanding is that “chinkuchi” is a method of power generation that involves simultaneous use of “dynamic tension” in stabilizing muscles of the body’s core; and optimal structural alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuShinshii Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time.I like that Great definition Bob. I love it too. Can I use that? The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure. Charles R. Swindoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuShinshii Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 “Chinkuchi” along with the associated concepts of “gamaku” and “muchimi” are not usually known outside Okinawan karate. Even in Okinawa few sensei go into detail on these concepts except for a few seniors. They cannot be blamed though, because explaining these concepts is not easy and requires an advanced knowledge and understanding of physical anatomy(musculature and skeleton) as well as body-mechanics.After a mere 5 years of training it in under an Okinawan sensei who insists on it, all attempts to put it into a coherent explanation are simplistic at best. All that can be said with this level of understanding is that “chinkuchi” is a method of power generation that involves simultaneous use of “dynamic tension” in stabilizing muscles of the body’s core; and optimal structural alignment.I think that's a pretty good explanation Spartacus. Yes there is more to it but to explain it to the layman this is a pretty good way. Thanks for the input. The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure. Charles R. Swindoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wastelander Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I tend to simplify the explanation down to positions and movements of the body that are as structurally stable and efficient as possible. Of course, you can get into things like chinkuchi lines vs. chinkuchi points, and the like. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time.I like that Great definition Bob. I love it too. Can I use that?Yes you can use that, MatsuShinshii, and anyone else can too!! **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 This is a cool explanation of a concept I had not heard of. What do you consider Kime to be, then? Is that merely focus? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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