Differences in student pain tolerance

[Alan Armstrong]

There can be a great distinctive difference between one student to another regarding pain tolerance.

How do you regulate what one student can endure compared to the next?

[sensei8]

Shugyo!!

SUCK IT UP!!

This is Shindokan!! Soke and Dai-Soke preached Shugyo to us on a daily basis, and we experienced in daily, as well.

Shugyo is preached to the entire SKKA Student Body. Can't stand the fire, then get out of the kitchen!! We've no tolerance to whining and complaining. That's mainly because Karate-do is a contact endeavor that must be experienced, in which, one MA betterment is improved.

We don't abuse or beat or torture our students, but we do put them through the paces, that's to be for sure. We don't apologize for it whatsoever!!

Boo boos and band-aides and kisses...we don't offer those!!

[singularity6]

The level of pain tolerance should be left to the student. They know their body best, after all. I know the difference between sore and injured, and I also know the limits of my body. My shoulders dislocate fairly easily, and I know the warning signs that my hip flexors send just before they become injured.

[MatsuShinshii]

There can be a great distinctive difference between one student to another regarding pain tolerance.

How do you regulate what one student can endure compared to the next?

I don't believe this is an issue. Everyone toughens up over time. No two students are exactly the same. To expect them to be is impractical.

One student may be able to push through and another may give up sooner. That student tolerance, as with everything in the arts, will improve.

I don't think this is an issue or something I or any other instructor needs to concern ourselves with. Their pain tolerance just like their physical fitness will improve over time. No one expects a student to be able to endure what those studying for years are now comfortable with.

[Alan Armstrong]

There can be a great distinctive difference between one student to another regarding pain tolerance.

How do you regulate what one student can endure compared to the next?

I don't believe this is an issue. Everyone toughens up over time. No two students are exactly the same. To expect them to be is impractical.

One student may be able to push through and another may give up sooner. That student tolerance, as with everything in the arts, will improve.

I don't think this is an issue or something I or any other instructor needs to concern ourselves with. Their pain tolerance just like their physical fitness will improve over time. No one expects a student to be able to endure what those studying for years are now comfortable with.

It is widely believed that regular exposure to painful stimuli will increase pain tolerance: increases the ability of the individual to handle pain by becoming more conditioned to it. However, in some cases, there is evidence to support the theory that greater exposure to pain will result in more painful future exposures. Repeated exposure bombards pain synapses with repetitive input, increasing their responsiveness to later stimuli, through a process similar to learning. Therefore, although the individual may learn cognitive methods of coping with pain, such methods may not be sufficient to cope with the boosted response to future painful stimuli.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance

[MatsuShinshii]

There can be a great distinctive difference between one student to another regarding pain tolerance.

How do you regulate what one student can endure compared to the next?

I don't believe this is an issue. Everyone toughens up over time. No two students are exactly the same. To expect them to be is impractical.

One student may be able to push through and another may give up sooner. That student tolerance, as with everything in the arts, will improve.

I don't think this is an issue or something I or any other instructor needs to concern ourselves with. Their pain tolerance just like their physical fitness will improve over time. No one expects a student to be able to endure what those studying for years are now comfortable with.

It is widely believed that regular exposure to painful stimuli will increase pain tolerance: increases the ability of the individual to handle pain by becoming more conditioned to it. However, in some cases, there is evidence to support the theory that greater exposure to pain will result in more painful future exposures. Repeated exposure bombards pain synapses with repetitive input, increasing their responsiveness to later stimuli, through a process similar to learning. Therefore, although the individual may learn cognitive methods of coping with pain, such methods may not be sufficient to cope with the boosted response to future painful stimuli.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance

I am not a doctor or a medical researcher/scientist, but I have to disagree with this based only on my own experiences.

Take conditioning for instance. Specifically striking the Makiwara, this means that I would now feel pain where I haven't felt pain in striking the Makiwara for many, many years. I don't. So how is this true? Am I a one in a million case? I highly doubt it.

Now I do experience pain caused by age (body aches such as joint's) but as far as being struck or striking this just isn't the case.

[sensei8]

Allow me to stress this once more...

Boo boos and band-aides and kisses...we don't offer those!!

[Spartacus Maximus]

One must use common sense. Different people will start with widely varying pain tolerance thresholds, but the initial differences eventually disappear with time and practise

Toughness is not something that can be learned overnight. It takes time to learn to first do things correctly, and then gradually increasing intensity. How long it takes varies from one person to another and trying to do too much too soon or too quickly can lead to serious or crippling injuries.

[MatsuShinshii]

Allow me to stress this once more...

Boo boos and band-aides and kisses...we don't offer those!!

I personally love one of the Marine Corps sayings that kind of goes in line with your post.

" We promise you sleep deprivation, mental torture, and muscles so soar you'll puke, but we don't want to sugar coat it".

[Tempest]

Depends on your definition of tolerance. We get a lot of tough guys in Judo and Jiu-jitsu. Lot's of people with "High pain Tolerance". Not very helpful against chokes and armbars. Mostly folks have to have the wherewithal to endure failure again and again.

Trying to "Tough it out" against a proper choke or joint lock is something we actually try to train OUT of people as it is monumentally stupid and will get you injured or crippled. It also impedes learning for everyone involved.

The thing we are looking for is folks who, after tapping or being thrown, get back up and go at it again with a smile.