Kensai Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 HOW DARE YOU BE SO IGNORANT! SAMURAI! assassins! GEEZ! Now, if you please read, "The Book of the Five Rings" or probably more importantly "Hagakure" you would relise the Samruai class for more than just fighters. They were also some of the GREATEST Artists, Musicians, Writers and Poets of ALL time. Please dont generalise! If you walk in to Aikido dojo, karate, Daito Ryu (esp Aiki no jutsu), even Ninjutsu you would see their philosphy runs deeper than maiming and killing. There are only 3 reasons for the true samurai to fight, for self protection, for the protection of ones loved ones and to defend ones nation. For the true Samurai, and the best of them the Kensai (for which I take my name, unjustly), the sword was an insrument of peace. Now can you please explain how some of the most deadly arts in the world, Aikijutsu, JJ, Ninjust and the other noble art of Karate-do, TKD and Aikido have anything to do with sport!? Take Care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Martial Sport IMO are TKD, JUDO, Sumo, kickboxing and boxing - meaning they are rules set up to judge each. Martial Arts IMO are karate, TSD, Hipakido, Kung Fu - mean you can use them in sport or SD. Combat Arts IM are THAI, Ju Jitsu, etc. - meaning you take this to learn how to fight and nothing else. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRo Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 it think that people shouldnt generalize TKD. traditional TKD styles like the ITF are not sport. but styles like the WTF can be. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-san Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 There are only 3 reasons for the true samurai to fight, for self protection, for the protection of ones loved ones and to defend ones nation. Um, samurai also fought to defend honour (theirs and their lord's) and were often simple killers due to the fact that they could kill any peasant or person of lower class for any reason at all. Even just to test the sharpness of their blades. More than killers, yes, but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid hamster Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 I always thought ITF was point sparring and semi contact? It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, for the most essential things are invisible to the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka_latino Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 WOW kensai, take it easy man... I feel you are having a heart Attack.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John G Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Our opinions are only shaped by quality of information available to us and from personal experiences. For my money the only true martial artists are those in the servitude of the armed forces, these people live offensive/defensive strategies 24/7. They will use every technical, psychological and physical resource available to achieve their objective. They have only one master, and their art changes from day to day to keep the tactical superiority required to win at all costs. From within the constraints of what is socially acceptable and our day to day living, what we try to do, is keep the traditions and skills practised by army’s from bygone eras alive. If your martial art incorporates some form of competition without the competitors being maimed or killed, you too can be viewed as a sports martial artist to the untrained eye. John G Jarrett III Dan, ITF Taekwon-Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensai Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Again Kyle San, thats really from films. Honour is gained by doing the 3 rules I stated. For reference please read the Bushido. Take Care, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Can it be simply said that the difference between art and sport is it turns into a sport when you begin competeing against others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRo Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 wow Blue i completely agree! thats so simple why didnt i think of it??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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