JR 137 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The Ronin and KW-11 are cut similarly. If one fits, the other should.There's really no comparison in the quality of the material, as the K-11's material is better in every way. It's lighter (good or bad is subjective), breathes better, and is far softer and smoother. I still sweat a lot, but not as much. That's not a knock on the Ronin though; we're comparing a $65 gi to a $185 gi.The Ronin does have two things going for it (other than price) - the ties are the best ties I've ever seen. I wish Shureido used them. They never loosen nor come untied. The Shureido ties are ordinary. And the Ronin has more snap to it. I don't care about that, but it's something I noticed a week or two ago.I really love the K-11. It's the perfect gi for me. It fits right, feels great, and if it's anything like my K-10 was, it'll last a long time. Worth every penny IMO.I really like the Ronin too. In your shoes, I'd buy one to hold me over. Who knows, you may not want a K-11 afterward. It's a very good gi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struggling_Mudansha Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 The Ronin and KW-11 are cut similarly. If one fits, the other should.There's really no comparison in the quality of the material, as the K-11's material is better in every way. It's lighter (good or bad is subjective), breathes better, and is far softer and smoother. I still sweat a lot, but not as much. That's not a knock on the Ronin though; we're comparing a $65 gi to a $185 gi.The Ronin does have two things going for it (other than price) - the ties are the best ties I've ever seen. I wish Shureido used them. They never loosen nor come untied. The Shureido ties are ordinary. And the Ronin has more snap to it. I don't care about that, but it's something I noticed a week or two ago.I really love the K-11. It's the perfect gi for me. It fits right, feels great, and if it's anything like my K-10 was, it'll last a long time. Worth every penny IMO.I really like the Ronin too. In your shoes, I'd buy one to hold me over. Who knows, you may not want a K-11 afterward. It's a very good gi.Do you own a 10oz. gi? How does the K-11 compare to one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 137 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I don't know if they've been 10 oz. exactly, but most middleweight gis I've seen are twill material rather than canvas. Basically, a little heavier than instructors typically give out for free with initially signing up.Regarding Shureido's K-11, picture a 12 oz. gi, but just a little lighter. Still all cotton canvas, still stiff enough to not look like you're wearing pajamas. I train with several people who wear middleweight gis. I hate to say it, but they're all garbage IMO. The material is like a light pair of jeans rather than stiffer canvas. It looks like a lot of them also mix polyester in the material. In that case, the gi is even hotter as polyester doesn't breathe like cotton.I highly doubt you'll be disappointed with a K-11. I look at it as a cooler wearing (as in temperature) version of the the K-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struggling_Mudansha Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 I don't know if they've been 10 oz. exactly, but most middleweight gis I've seen are twill material rather than canvas. Basically, a little heavier than instructors typically give out for free with initially signing up.Regarding Shureido's K-11, picture a 12 oz. gi, but just a little lighter. Still all cotton canvas, still stiff enough to not look like you're wearing pajamas. I train with several people who wear middleweight gis. I hate to say it, but they're all garbage IMO. The material is like a light pair of jeans rather than stiffer canvas. It looks like a lot of them also mix polyester in the material. In that case, the gi is even hotter as polyester doesn't breathe like cotton.I highly doubt you'll be disappointed with a K-11. I look at it as a cooler wearing (as in temperature) version of the the K-10.Interesting. The reason why I ask is because I have no idea how heavy or light Shureido gis are (the fact that they don't use ounce designations makes things really difficult).The gi I'm wearing now is a ProForce 10oz. heavyweight. It's basically a 100% cotton heavyweight gi but made as light as possible. I really like it; light, tough and has a nice snap. It even uses the nice ties that Ronin and Meijin use. My biggest gripe with it though is the top is an inch too short, possibly due to my flat shoulders.I'd like to find something that is around the same weight and quality. The K-10 sounds like it might be in the colossal 14oz. range and that would be a bit too heavy for me. The K-11 is a mystery as to how heavy it is, but if you say it's a little lighter than a 12oz, then that would be perfect.I guess the only way to find out is to order one to see if I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 137 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 If I had to guess, I'd say the K-10 is 12 oz and the K-11 is 10 oz. The K-11 is a little lighter than my 12 oz Ronin.These are odd gis (in a very good way); they're cooler and lighter feeling than the typical gis. They breathe so much better. Add to that the material is softer and whiter.It's hard to describe. Even just initially handling it doesn't do much justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struggling_Mudansha Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 After getting in my Shureido gi today and measuring it, this size chart appears to be the most accurate at the moment:http://www.okinawadirect.com/shopcontent.asp?type=DogiSizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struggling_Mudansha Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 If I had to guess, I'd say the K-10 is 12 oz and the K-11 is 10 oz. The K-11 is a little lighter than my 12 oz Ronin.These are odd gis (in a very good way); they're cooler and lighter feeling than the typical gis. They breathe so much better. Add to that the material is softer and whiter.It's hard to describe. Even just initially handling it doesn't do much justice.I got a K-10 from Shureido a couple of days ago and I can agree to that assessment. It weighs around a 12 oz. Bit too heavy for my tastes, so I'm going to go with a K-11 next order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 137 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Have you washed and/or worn the K-10 yet during training? As crazy as it sounds, it's not as hot feeling as other 12 oz gis. Not that I'm trying to force you to try it by any means.I love my K-11. It's the perfect weight for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struggling_Mudansha Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Have you washed and/or worn the K-10 yet during training? As crazy as it sounds, it's not as hot feeling as other 12 oz gis. Not that I'm trying to force you to try it by any means.I love my K-11. It's the perfect weight for me.I have not tried training with it as of this moment, mainly because I don't want to diminish its quality any further then I already have. But I do agree with you; it does breath well. In fact, it breaths just as well as my 10 oz. gi.It's just that the weight feels a little more restrictive (the fact that the gi doesn't fit me right probably doesn't help either). I love the feeling of my 10 oz, so I think I need to find something that feels similar to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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