Another gkr story

[sensei8]

The point of training in the Martial Arts it learning to apply techniques. You can't do that without having some equal rules when it comes to partner training. It sounds to me like these "rules of etiquette" are being used to cover the inadequacies of their instructors. I think this is also brought on by how they use their instructor program.

If I was training there, and heard those excuses, I wouldn't train there anymore.

Solid post!!

[mazzybear]

The point of training in the Martial Arts it learning to apply techniques. You can't do that without having some equal rules when it comes to partner training. It sounds to me like these "rules of etiquette" are being used to cover the inadequacies of their instructors. I think this is also brought on by how they use their instructor program.

If I was training there, and heard those excuses, I wouldn't train there anymore.

I couldn't agree more.

[Hawkmoon]

Kumite is fighting, fighting is kumite, etiquette is not kumite, fighting is not etiquette!

... you cannot be serious?

Not sure how a so called 2nd Dan can get hit by a lower grade and the lower grade be sanctioned for it! Its insane not sure how this is anything else other than plain crazy PC thing!

You were grading you were fighting after all that was the point ... wasn't it?

Sorry no, they are a funny bunch that is for sure, this view is there own,we all have our own views, but that , thats just mad, its messing with your head in all the wrong ways!

[Judodad_karateson]

This kind of nonsense is why we are seeing less and less TMA schools. Tradition and history of the art and its culture of origin can still be respected without completely pointless practices like the idea that only one of the sparring partners is allowed to strike. Imho, this is the kind of backward thinking that leads people to turn away from Karate, TKD, Judo, etc, and go to a boxing or MMA gym instead.

[Spartacus Maximus]

It appears that the rule and so-called tradition mentioned is specific to the school of karate consernced. Sparring or kumite exercises where only one side ever strikes is not a very productive way of training. Unless the point is to take turns or isolate specific elements for understanding and analyzing. In prearranged kumite, for instance.

As for free sparring, there is not now nor has there ever been any custom or rule as described in the first post. In any serious dojo, everyone is expect to treat their fellow dojo mates with respect and exert an appropriate level of control when performing contact drills or kumite. The higher the level, the more control one is expected to have.

[sensei8]

It appears that the rule and so-called tradition mentioned is specific to the school of karate consernced. Sparring or kumite exercises where only one side ever strikes is not a very productive way of training. Unless the point is to take turns or isolate specific elements for understanding and analyzing. In prearranged kumite, for instance.

As for free sparring, there is not now nor has there ever been any custom or rule as described in the first post. In any serious dojo, everyone is expect to treat their fellow dojo mates with respect and exert an appropriate level of control when performing contact drills or kumite. The higher the level, the more control one is expected to have.

Hit or be hit...deflect or be the target...strike or be struck...kick or be kicked...

[Spartacus Maximus]

Precisely. There must be exchange and practise at a certain point in order to fully grasp the meaning and purpose of training

[bushido_man96]

I agree. That's kind of the point of sparring. I want lower ranks to hit me. I'm not infallible, and I want to know where I'm leaving openings, so I can start defending them.

[guird]

Yes this is ridiculous, and far from the first gkr horror story on this and other forums. I'd take your business elswhere.