DaveB Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 Stratagems turn in to victory through application. Application is realised through practice.K.Yes, but for everything there is a time and a place.
Kusotare Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Stratagems turn in to victory through application. Application is realised through practice.K.Yes, but for everything there is a time and a place.Agreed - It's the Dojo.K. Usque ad mortem bibendum!
DaveB Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 That's going to be my answer for everything...Who shot JFK? It's the dojo!
DaveB Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 Paint A to Point B. straight line.If anyone "CAN" trap,catch,shift,deflect,etc.. they should be capable of doing something EASIER like just getting straight to the point.Simple,practical and just more scientific(fastest point to anywhere, a straight line.)Thanks for this.I understand the concept you put forward, but as I learned things, if you are performing one of those less.direct manoeuvres it should be because to not do so would get you hit or at best nullify your own attack. What style of karate do you practice?
Montana Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Alas, if I may, sometimes a curved line is just as direct and short as a straight line. To the layperson, these lines become blurred and troubled. While I may transition straight at first, opportunities permit me to transition in an angle, thusly, to the target. To me, this option was the same as a straight line. When teaching(or posting in this case) , i tend to speak to the the "MASSES". the masses can attain the concept of "straight line is easiest" while very few(talking 1% or less) can develop "shifting,torque,combo,angles,etc" to be an effective concept.Sort of like watching Lebron james and trying to teach everyone to do slam dunks from the free throw line, why teach it when a hand full of humans can do it out of 8,000,000,000 on earth. The concept of dunking from the free throw line is possible but i rather teach doing "layups" as everyone can accomplish it.I am sure a handful of humans on earth can catch a punch in mid full speed UNREHEARSED flight, but why teach that? Teaching unattainable concepts and techniques is honestly detrimental to anyone (IN MY OPINION).I can try and do my Lebron Free throw dunks for my entire life time and NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE to doing it. "I just wasted my life time trying to be LEBRON".....Disclaimer: Listen to your instructor over a random person(ME) posting on the internet.I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say, but for the life of me..I'm lost!By "while very few(talking 1% or less) can develop "shifting,torque,combo,angles,etc" to be an effective concept."..are you sying that very few people can learn and use the fundamental techniques and properties of the martial arts??? In over 30 years of teaching the arts using just those concepts you mention, it's been my experiencve that the vast MAJORITY of people can learn, and use, those techniques. It just takes time, practice and effort. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries.
JR 137 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 My strategy is very simple - hit harder than my opponent hits me, and hit him far more than he hits me.If only I had a way to implement that every single time.I'm trying my best to change up my timing (or lack thereof) by hitting my opponent before my opponent can finish his strike. I guess it can be summed up by punching them once I see them preparing to strike. I've been taking a beating lately because of it, but it's all in the name of improvement, so hopefully it'll pay off soon.
126barnes Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I'm trying my best to change up my timing (or lack thereof) by hitting my opponent before my opponent can finish his strike. I guess it can be summed up by punching them once I see them preparing to strike. I've been taking a beating lately because of it, but it's all in the name of improvement, so hopefully it'll pay off soon.I hear that, training to beat a guy to the punch gets you a flat nose and bruised ribs, atleast at first. Its great when you get it, but bad when you don't. Barnes
Kusotare Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 That's going to be my answer for everything...Who shot JFK? It's the dojo!Well, as they say - there is only training! K. Usque ad mortem bibendum!
DaveB Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 Well, as they say - there is only training! K.It's the dojo!
Maybetrue Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Alas, if I may, sometimes a curved line is just as direct and short as a straight line. To the layperson, these lines become blurred and troubled. While I may transition straight at first, opportunities permit me to transition in an angle, thusly, to the target. To me, this option was the same as a straight line. When teaching(or posting in this case) , i tend to speak to the the "MASSES". the masses can attain the concept of "straight line is easiest" while very few(talking 1% or less) can develop "shifting,torque,combo,angles,etc" to be an effective concept.Sort of like watching Lebron james and trying to teach everyone to do slam dunks from the free throw line, why teach it when a hand full of humans can do it out of 8,000,000,000 on earth. The concept of dunking from the free throw line is possible but i rather teach doing "layups" as everyone can accomplish it.I am sure a handful of humans on earth can catch a punch in mid full speed UNREHEARSED flight, but why teach that? Teaching unattainable concepts and techniques is honestly detrimental to anyone (IN MY OPINION).I can try and do my Lebron Free throw dunks for my entire life time and NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE to doing it. "I just wasted my life time trying to be LEBRON".....Disclaimer: Listen to your instructor over a random person(ME) posting on the internet.I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say, but for the life of me..I'm lost!By "while very few(talking 1% or less) can develop "shifting,torque,combo,angles,etc" to be an effective concept."..are you sying that very few people can learn and use the fundamental techniques and properties of the martial arts??? In over 30 years of teaching the arts using just those concepts you mention, it's been my experiencve that the vast MAJORITY of people can learn, and use, those techniques. It just takes time, practice and effort.Yup, people can "learn and do" but can they actually be applied effectively is the real question.since you mentioned that you have 30 years of experience teaching and you started in 1975 in your profile.Really hate to do this(as you see i just put Karate and no rank on my profile)in 1975 i was a nidan and as a sandan in 1979 Kata and Kumite champion of a very large organization. In the early 1980's had coverage of big traditional Karate tournaments i have won covered by Major Martial Arts Magazines...... enough about rank and accolades.....But it seems that ones "dan/rank" is important to many here. Rank is important but not the only defining factor of ones knowledge. If one has great Karate and APPLIED it in competition,training and students success, the "dan/rank" becomes less important... i could care less about my rank, Karateka know what i did and what i do. that is enough. interesting knowledge
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