The Game Plan of your martial art

[sensei8]

Yes, I agree. But, to us, as it's taught to us, are different.

I think perhaps all roads lead to Rome in this respect Sensei8?

Sente - in terms of a mental posture requires all of the above.

We say in Wado-ryu 'Ko Bo Ittai' - which means attack and defence are one.

K.

I agree!!

[jaypo]

My favorite "ideal" from my training is to put your opponent on defense ASAP! My personal mantra is that I'm going to destroy whatever my opponent gives to me! Whether that be his head or an arm. I don't train with blocks. I train to strike strikes and to eliminate each weapon that he throws at me.

Sounds corny, but that's how I approach my training.

[Spartacus Maximus]

The idea of attack and defense being one is a main theme of Okinawan karate as well as several other systems of Chinese origin. "Blocks" are supposed to be used in that way and the purpose is not merely to stop an attacking limb but to attack it and render in useless to continue. This is why there is so much emphasis on limb conditioning.

Styles such as Uechi ryu and Goju ryu are the most reknowned for this feature and Shorin ryu to a lesser extent. In the era before and shortly after the Second World War, this feature(hardening of training was part all Okinawan systems.

[DaveB]

In particular I'm interested in the different strategies or game plans advocated/taught/developed by the various components and methods employed in your art.

In a word "Sente" (先手).

In Japanese budo this means to "seize the initiative" - in other words getting the jump on your opponent.

K.

So then, let me reply with a word: how?

[DaveB]

Strategy and tactics is part of every system and as far as East Asian one's such as Kung fu or Karate, this can be found in the forms(kata). Tactics includes all the obvious and subtle techniques and strategy is the way they work together such as a strike setting up a throw, for example. The two depend on one another.

To be effective, a technique must fit the strategy.

I agree completely, but that is part of what I found unusual about the strategy you quoted. I've not seen much in Shorinot ryu kata that suggests drilling through the opponent with machine gun striking.

Can you elaborate on this kata connection to your strategy?

Edited November 14, 2015 by DaveB

[GojuRyu Bahrain]

In my Goju Ryu the strategy for self defense based sparring (based on Kata) is:

1. Receive: Evade – block the arms – live hand

2. Bridge: Control – lead – destabilize to prevent any further attack

3. Finish: Punch – kick – throw – break – stomp

For fun (i.e., sport) fights I add more focus on attacks, sen-o-sen and high-low-high combinations that wouldn't make as much sense in a self defense based scenario.

[Maybetrue]

knowing the "terms" "sayings" will not equate to actually experience and executing that "FEELING". 1,000,000's of karate-ka throw around the "terms" but will never actually "feel" it.

dont "think" or set goals on "terms", when you train and kumite for 1,000's of hours you begin to get a "feeling". If you learn the "word/term" first, you will only "think" about the feeling and rarely have it NATURALLY.

stop reading. it hinders your training.

Its not really a "STYLE" thing, it is a individual "feeling".

MOST WILL NEVER HAVE the "terms" being thrown around. That whats separates the great Martial artist from the good/average.

[sensei8]

knowing the "terms" "sayings" will not equate to actually experience and executing that "FEELING". 1,000,000's of karate-ka throw around the "terms" but will never actually "feel" it.

dont "think" or set goals on "terms", when you train and kumite for 1,000's of hours you begin to get a "feeling". If you learn the "word/term" first, you will only "think" about the feeling and rarely have it NATURALLY.

stop reading. it hinders your training.

Its not really a "STYLE" thing, it is a individual "feeling".

MOST WILL NEVER HAVE the "terms" being thrown around. That whats separates the great Martial artist from the good/average.

Solid post!!

[Kusotare]

In particular I'm interested in the different strategies or game plans advocated/taught/developed by the various components and methods employed in your art.

In a word "Sente" (先手).

In Japanese budo this means to "seize the initiative" - in other words getting the jump on your opponent.

K.

So then, let me reply with a word: how?

By creating opportunity!

As Maybetrue has said - the real answer has to be felt, realised and experienced rather than told.

K.

[DaveB]

knowing the "terms" "sayings" will not equate to actually experience and executing that "FEELING". 1,000,000's of karate-ka throw around the "terms" but will never actually "feel" it.

dont "think" or set goals on "terms", when you train and kumite for 1,000's of hours you begin to get a "feeling". If you learn the "word/term" first, you will only "think" about the feeling and rarely have it NATURALLY.

stop reading. it hinders your training.

Its not really a "STYLE" thing, it is a individual "feeling".

MOST WILL NEVER HAVE the "terms" being thrown around. That whats separates the great Martial artist from the good/average.

Somewhat of a moot point for a Web forum and pretty irrelevant to a discussion that is trying to avoid talking about training.

Why do Web forums always attract people who want to tell you how pointless discussion is?