BlackDragon777 Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 I am just curious to see what you guys think. In the Kung fu I practice, my teacher as I said combines Karate with Kung fu and we don't learnmany "fancy" moves. We learn moves to take down the opponent very fast and easy. This is the way I like. For example, You have a big strong guy. #1, with front leg, kick to the groin, strike the eyes out with five fingers, punch to the groin and come up with a punch. This should eliminate the opponent, at least long enouph for you to get away. There is nothing fancy about the moves. He says as long as you learn trhough Karate and Kung fu how to defend yourself, fancy moves aren't important. He does however teach us some fancy moves, but self defense moves come first. I love his philosiphy. These attacks are VERY easy and VERY fast. I am not interested in fancy moves, rather skills to eliminate an opponent. My shihan use to teach Us Special Forces, and now trains all the police officers in my city. His moves and forms are made to easily and quickly take out the opponent which as I said I really enjoy. What do you guys think? Do you perfer "fancy" moves or are you the martial artist who just cares to learn how to take out an opponent quickly or both? For myself, I enjoy both but I mostly enjoy learn quick and easy moves to take out an opponent. Thanks!!!! GOD Bless you Always my Friends!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungku Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 Personally I prefer both. Sometimes it's fun to put on shows. I think training 'real' moves should come first and foremost, and they should be seperated. It should be clearly understood what is combat efficient/effective and what is not. A lot of the 'fancy' moves are good to practice simply because of their fitness benefit. They may not be a 'combat-oriented' technique, but they can help improve agility, balance, power, speed, strength, accuracy, etc. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnifinite Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 I have no interest in the fancy stuff personally. My head is cluttered enough already without sticking that extra stuff in there . 1st Dan HapkidoColored belts in Kempo and Jujitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-san Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 I'm not much of a flash kinda guy, I tend to lean towards something that's effective and doesn't have much look to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka_latino Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Unless you aren't planning a carreer in the show business, then stick what its effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karateka_latino Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 small correction.. Unless you ARE planning a carreer in show business, then stick with the effective techniques. sometimes i type so fast that i don't watch what im writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 For self defense, effective is what's best. Fancy techniques are nice for training purposes. I had to lose my mind to come to my senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramymensa Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Fancy stuff ... love it, but I take care of the effective techniques first. The others are just to prove myself I can do artistic moves Effectivness is our priority. Shotokan is quite boring in this apect, but I guess I cope with the situation. And when it comes to defend your person on the street it's important to do it well and powerful, not artistic World Shotokan Karate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungku Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Watch this video from Kungfu.net I liek the part where one of the guys tries a big spinning hook or whatever and the other guy justs grabs his leg and sends him on a trip. This just shows make sure you know what you're doing. Like I said, keep your training seperate. If you want to do fancy stuff, because it looks cool and helps coordination, agility and balance, go ahead. Just remember when it comes to actual combat -> KISS - Keep it simple, stupid Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Fighter Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Self-defense, looks can get you really hurt........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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