Thai_Kick Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Kyokushin Karate vs Wing Chun; the beginning has the Wing Chun fighter do a form, but after that you'll see the fight. Wing Chun fighter in black gi, Kyokushin fighter in white gi, check it out! http://www.mcdojo.com/dl_info.asp?id=54 Limits Are Not Accepted. They Are Elbowed, Kicked And Punched.
fungku Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 I guess people will never stop comparing styles. I suppose tThey'll never realise that it's the fighter, and not his style that wins. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
Molson style Posted November 9, 2002 Posted November 9, 2002 u can't really judge styles from the movie. all u see is wc guy sucks n the kyokushin guy knocking him out with 4 shots.
Punchdrunk Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Thanks fung ku, that sums it up. Hey I don't know anything about Chinese forms. I have to say that the forms as demonstrated by that fellow on the McDojo site don't look very committed. I'm not saying the forms aren't good if done well I'm trying to say that he doesn't look like he is putting much "heart" or "spirit" into them. Can any of you all who practice Wing Chun tell me if his form looks like he knows what he's doing? His fighting looks the same as his forms, a lot of motion without much strength or conviction. One cannot choose to be passive without the option to be aggressive.
fungku Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 That guy got was was coming to him Wing Chun teaches you to be efficient with your energy, not attack the guy like you're a little girl trying to get your diary back from your older brother. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
Punchdrunk Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 I looked up SPAZ and found that guy's picture Again, I'm making fun of someone who had the guts to get in and fight. That is pretty hypocritical of me but he sort of invites it. Fung Ku, was he doing those forms well or were they as bad as his punches? One cannot choose to be passive without the option to be aggressive.
Kensai Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 I have seen some WC. The forms are usually alot more acurrate, with more power behind each strike block........etc. This WC guy seemed to have none of that. I would agree that he was brave to get stuck in there, but the Karate fighter was just such much better, he took his time, well placed strikes. Take Care.
fungku Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Fung Ku, was he doing those forms well or were they as bad as his punches? Liek kensai said I have seen some WC. The forms are usually alot more acurrate, with more power behind each strike block........etc. This WC guy seemed to have none of that. I would agree that he was brave to get stuck in there, but the Karate fighter was just such much better, he took his time, well placed strikes. Take Care. Visit Shaolin, Chinese Martial Arts - I don't fear the 10,000 techniques you've practised once, I fear the one technique you've practiced 10,000 times. -
m002 Posted January 10, 2003 Posted January 10, 2003 it isn't just the person: If some1 is a good athlete then they may have an advantage - however when they fight, whichever style they do thay'll revert to a specific style (street fighting etc), a kind of universal one or they will fight with what they know but it would be the specific style(s) which are realistic. SO although it's something like 80% the person, 20% the style the style can, and generally is the deciding factor - if it isn't good they'll put themselves at a substantial disadvantage. To make up for a faultly/ineffective/unrealistic style they will revert to a version of a good, effective style but they'll just be unskillful at it. However because they're using an effective style, however bad they're at it, they can still hurt the opponent - the superior strength and/or cardiovascular factors just add to the fighter. The more skilled person, although weaker may still be at a greater advantage if their overall Health isn't much worse. Even if it is alot worse, the skill of the person or fighter may oevrcome sheer atheletisism. Especially if it suprizers the better conditioned person.
KungFuGrappler Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 It is definately mainly the fighter. I was reading on the Bushido site, where the video came from, that the ufc has showed us alot about which is the better arts. NO!!! I little bit yes. But, until there is trully no rules, I don't want to here about it. If you cant tear someones balls out, poke their eyes out, do anything at all to the neck and even elbow to the face or back of neck. I enjoy grappling, I enjoy full contact, its hard but I enjoy it. It does help train for a real fight. But those rules definately make a huge difference. As far as the fight on the tape, so what you could find white belts in tkd who would whip some bjj. Grappleing is huge, it does make a difference, but the rules are also huge. I understand, though there is no way u could have a league where there was no rules. It wouldn't be right and it would be hard to find willing qualified fighters.
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