Red J Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Talk about just walking into it...geez I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
Karateka_latino Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 I couldn't see the video but the way you talk about it, means that they shotokan guy did the same mistake everybody do when they fight against BJJ, Go and try to out-grappler a grappler specialist. When are they going to understand they can't do it? If you watch first UFC's you'll see the same thing.
omnifinite Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 It looked like there were a lot of times on the ground that the karate guy could have elbowed him in the head... I wonder why he didn't. How full-contact was this? 1st Dan HapkidoColored belts in Kempo and Jujitsu
diamondick Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 It seems to me they are big on grappling at mcdojo.com this is the second video I have seen there of grappler beating a striker. I would like to see some of the other kind. I think BJJ isn´t the ultimate Martial art but many people do.
Kensai Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 I agree diamond. The mcdojo.com people are pretty annoying, I dont go there all that often. I would like to know if there is a website that has lots of vs vid clips. Take Care
Punchdrunk Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Kensai, most of the folks from McDojo came from https://www.adcombat.com a website initially created to support the Abu Dahbi grappling tournemant. It is a fun group but pretty rowdy. A good site for MMA video clips is https://www.sherdog.com One cannot choose to be passive without the option to be aggressive.
guarddog Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 On another forum this video I think helped inflate the egos of bjj people. However its obvious the Karate guy made some mistakes here and I am not saying I would win, because I would not LOL being I am new to Karate, but I know enough to understand the Karate guy did not use his skill set like he should have against a grappler. J.
Kensai Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 Cheers Punch for the link. I could not agree more guarddog. Take Care.
Ironberg Posted November 16, 2002 Posted November 16, 2002 I think most of us on this forum have a bit of a biased paradigm towards the striking arts. I am not here to clean up, as I am an American Karate stylist and do not specialize in grappling, but I think it is best in the martial arts world to keep our minds open. I rewound watched the interception phase over and over again. It is quite obvious that the Karate guy displayed no sense of aliveness in his positioning, his body posture, and his arm movements the entire time up to the time that BJJ dude thrusted him into the wall. It is my opinion that the Karate guy probably never watched UFC, or even WWF (sorry, now it's E), and was also a bit confident in something he shouldn't be confident about. I am no black belt yet, but something has to be said understanding your opponent, and the strenghts and weaknesses of yourself (kinda like what guarddog was implying). I have experimented with grappling, and belive me, there can be a time for it. It might even be a good idea for me to cross train when I grab the time (pun intended). "An enlightened man would offer a weary traveler a bed for the night, and invite him to share a civilized conversation over a bowl of... Cocoa Puffs."
Kensai Posted November 16, 2002 Posted November 16, 2002 Ironberg, that is very wise indeed. There is no substitute for understanding ones opponent, as the great Sun Zu once said. I personally dont like cross training. But I really enjoy learning about other styles from MT to Tai Chi. I think its important to atleast have a little understand behind even just a few styles. Not nessessily to learn how to beat other styles for real. But to understand the fight dyamic. Take Care.
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