GlideBoxx

[DWx]

What do you all make of this? (be sure to watch the video)

http://www.glideboxx.com/

Seems lile a good idea for solo training if you have the space for it. I can totally understand the need for something that moves backwards, forward and around whilst you're hitting it. Bags can be a little too static for training kicking combos.

[sensei8]

I love it!! Why?

My opponent is alive, and my opponent MOVES; not statically stuck in one place. That which you present here mimics movement, and that's important, especially when training with a heavy bag. Heavy bag training is important, but you have to move around a hanging bag that sways, but doesn't move.

This bag MOVES, and that's closest to reality, and reality training is vital too!!

Thanks for sharing this video, Danielle!!

[JR 137]

One of those things that has me (and I'm sure many others) saying "Why didn't I think of that?!"

Seems like a great invention/innovation. The only roadblock I have is space. This will probably end up mostly in gyms/dojos due to the space it potentially requires, thereby eliminating the very essence of its creation - simulating movement when you don't have a training partner.

Any idea of price? Looks expensive, but I don't think it's controlled by an electric motor or computerized system, potentially keeping the cost down. I think I heard the guy say bungie cords in a video somewhere on the website.

Installation would probably be tricky too. Coming from a family of mechanics and a contractor or two, I probably wouldn't have problems finding help installing it, but most people don't have that luxury either. Probably needs some sort of professional installation. Where and how to hang a traditional heavy bag is difficult enough sometimes; this takes that to the extreme.

Not bashing it at all; just stating why it probably won't be in everyone's "home gym." I'd be all over it (if it's affordable), but first I need the guy who's taken up all the space in my basement to get out.

[JR 137]

According to Amazon, price starts at $2k

http://www.amazon.com/Glideboxx-GlideBoxx-Training-System/dp/B00FAWBK9S

Not going to happen in my house, unfortunately.

[sensei8]

For me, and for now, the standard hanging heavy bag will have to suffice! The price doesn't bother me, and I'd only have this at the dojo and not in my home for various reasons.

In the dojo...

*Can multiple bags be hung?

If not, then this device is only for solo training and NOT for group lessons because time is a valuable commodity, and waiting ones turn at this new toy will eat of floor time. Imho!!

I wouldn't want to have multiple apparatuses hanging from the ceiling because that might make getting around the floor quite busy, and in the way of class, and I wouldn't want to hang bags up and take bags down all of the time.

[JR 137]

For me, and for now, the standard hanging heavy bag will have to suffice! The price doesn't bother me, and I'd only have this at the dojo and not in my home for various reasons.

In the dojo...

*Can multiple bags be hung?

If not, then this device is only for solo training and NOT for group lessons because time is a valuable commodity, and waiting ones turn at this new toy will eat of floor time. Imho!!

I wouldn't want to have multiple apparatuses hanging from the ceiling because that might make getting around the floor quite busy, and in the way of class, and I wouldn't want to hang bags up and take bags down all of the time.

Instead of one person using it while the rest of the class watches and waits their turn, it could be one of several stations. One student at the glideboxx, a pair in another section doing focus mitts, another pair doing prearranged sparring drills, etc.

But I think this is truly for the hardcore practicioner to have at their home, or in a place like UFC Gym (formerly LA Boxing) or a big dojo that emphasizes kumite and competition like a Kyokushin dojo.

It's basically a niche product within a niche market. It won't revolutionalize training; it's just another training tool. A seemingly very good training tool, but a training tool nonetheless.

[Wado Heretic]

Some what annoyed to find out about this; I built something just like this for myself. This could have saved me a lot of effort

Having only used my own version I can only comment that I have found it useful for solo training. If I was a gym owner I might get one if I had a dedicated bag room, but without said room I would consider it too large for a conventional gym or Dojo. It takes up a lot of floor room you could better use, plus if you have people to work out with, which you usually will do in a class, then it is really not useful.

Broadly speaking; it is useful in the way certain Okinawan and Chinese striking devices which give you some feed-back through reaction, or a grappling dummy, is useful. It allows for the practice of some skills you can't practice on a conventional bag, striking object, or without an object at all. However, if you regularly have people to practice against, it sees dramatic reduction in usefulness.

[DWx]

For me, and for now, the standard hanging heavy bag will have to suffice! The price doesn't bother me, and I'd only have this at the dojo and not in my home for various reasons.

In the dojo...

*Can multiple bags be hung?

If not, then this device is only for solo training and NOT for group lessons because time is a valuable commodity, and waiting ones turn at this new toy will eat of floor time. Imho!!

I wouldn't want to have multiple apparatuses hanging from the ceiling because that might make getting around the floor quite busy, and in the way of class, and I wouldn't want to hang bags up and take bags down all of the time.

Instead of one person using it while the rest of the class watches and waits their turn, it could be one of several stations. One student at the glideboxx, a pair in another section doing focus mitts, another pair doing prearranged sparring drills, etc.

But I think this is truly for the hardcore practicioner to have at their home, or in a place like UFC Gym (formerly LA Boxing) or a big dojo that emphasizes kumite and competition like a Kyokushin dojo.

It's basically a niche product within a niche market. It won't revolutionalize training; it's just another training tool. A seemingly very good training tool, but a training tool nonetheless.

This is kinda how we use the standard bags at our dojang. Either people rotate on the bag from some other drill or pad work, or if there is an odd number in partner work the spare will work the bag instead.

[DWx]

Some what annoyed to find out about this; I built something just like this for myself. This could have saved me a lot of effort

Having only used my own version I can only comment that I have found it useful for solo training. If I was a gym owner I might get one if I had a dedicated bag room, but without said room I would consider it too large for a conventional gym or Dojo. It takes up a lot of floor room you could better use, plus if you have people to work out with, which you usually will do in a class, then it is really not useful.

Broadly speaking; it is useful in the way certain Okinawan and Chinese striking devices which give you some feed-back through reaction, or a grappling dummy, is useful. It allows for the practice of some skills you can't practice on a conventional bag, striking object, or without an object at all. However, if you regularly have people to practice against, it sees dramatic reduction in usefulness.

How'd you build yours Wado? I thought about building my own for the garage but not sure it's worth the headache.

[Wado Heretic]

A similar fashion to the glideboxx in that it was a square section within a larger square, with the bag supported by a bar. However, the inner square was on rails like a cart so could move back and forth, which is where I got the north- south movement. I got the east-west movement by making the supporting bar able to roll within the inner square. I used old leaf springs to act as buffers against the cart and bar so they did not just collide with the sides and had some bounce. I also used some bungee cords on the cart; four to be precise with two on the sides with the wheels on. They were slack when the cart is centered but will tense when you move the cart off center.

No where nearly as smooth working as the glideboxx, but the effect is very similar. Looks like there is some electronic element to the glideboxx though which probably makes that effect possible. In the presentation video the implication is that there isn't, but without some sort of motor I am not sure how I would get a similar effect. However, I am only a hobbyist so would take that statement with a large pinch of salt.

Would offer to get pictures but it is currently in bits in storage until I find an affordable training space to put it back up. Currently tempted to just turn the storage into such a space but need to clear it with the land lord.