My latest training session

[muttley]

Well, tonight I moved on significantly in my training. Another session of myself and sensei only, we moved on from Kihon in "fighting stance" and have moved to Kihon in zenkutsu dachi which is something I am more used to, the only issue being getting the subtle differences sorted out (such as the reverse hand and how to perform gidan berai on the turn etc).

We also covered the 1st 3 kata, nothing massively brain taxing otehr than the thhird one mixing zenkutsu dachi with kokutsu dachi and Kyokushin kokutsu dachi being a lot different (and more painful). However, for a first attempt at kata in this new style, I think I did well and am looking forward to getting my gi sorted out and then training for my first grading. Loving it and so so pleased I made the decision to firstly change style and secondly start as a complete novice with an open mind.

[JR 137]

Which kata did you learn, Taikyoku 1-3?

Glad you're liking what you're doing. Kyokushin derived styles seem much more natural to me than others. I've worked out with a lot of people from different styles. I genuinely respect them all, and don't think the others are wrong and Kyokushin-types are right, but Kyokushin styles have just suited me best. It's probably my body type and view of what it should feel like.

[muttley]

Yes the tail you 1-3 kata, first 1 is basically shot okays kihon kata 2nd one not much different but San, that's the one that's going t to take most work.

Truly loving the training, feeling better than I have in years.

[muttley]

Yes the tail you 1-3 kata, first 1 is basically shot okays kihon kata 2nd one not much different but San, that's the one that's going t to take most work.

Truly loving the training, feeling better than I have in years.

Edit: Should have read Taikyoku 1-3 kata! Stupid tablet with predictive text!!!

Anyway, it was fantastic and I seriously hope that I can grade soon.

[JR 137]

Taikyoku 3 feels very awkward at first. Transitioning to and from kokutsu dachi feels awkward, then the 270 degree spin from zenkutsu dachi to kokutsu dachi throws things off more.

Keep at it, it'll get significantly more natural. Then you won't do it for a while as you progress in rank and kata complexity, and when you go back to it, it'll feel weird all over again.

Previously studying Shotokan, you've never done them before? They were developed by Gichin Funakoshi. I wonder how many Shotokan schools don't do Taikyoku kata. Seems odd to me; kind of like if a Goju Ryu school didn't do Gekisai Dai.

[muttley]

Never done before (except 1 as kihon) then went straight to heian kata

[Titanium]

Taikyoku 3 feels very awkward at first. Transitioning to and from kokutsu dachi feels awkward, then the 270 degree spin from zenkutsu dachi to kokutsu dachi throws things off more.

Keep at it, it'll get significantly more natural. Then you won't do it for a while as you progress in rank and kata complexity, and when you go back to it, it'll feel weird all over again.

Previously studying Shotokan, you've never done them before? They were developed by Gichin Funakoshi. I wonder how many Shotokan schools don't do Taikyoku kata. Seems odd to me; kind of like if a Goju Ryu school didn't do Gekisai Dai.

A lot of associations change the katas themselves now, especially in Shotokan. Taikyoku kata is somewhat a relic, I learned it on a special Dan course.

Shotokan have the basic kata Kihon, straight into Heian Shodan, Heian Nidan, Heian Sandan etc.

[Titanium]

Never done before (except 1 as kihon) then went straight to heian kata

Please see my post above.

[JR 137]

Taikyoku 3 feels very awkward at first. Transitioning to and from kokutsu dachi feels awkward, then the 270 degree spin from zenkutsu dachi to kokutsu dachi throws things off more.

Keep at it, it'll get significantly more natural. Then you won't do it for a while as you progress in rank and kata complexity, and when you go back to it, it'll feel weird all over again.

Previously studying Shotokan, you've never done them before? They were developed by Gichin Funakoshi. I wonder how many Shotokan schools don't do Taikyoku kata. Seems odd to me; kind of like if a Goju Ryu school didn't do Gekisai Dai.

A lot of associations change the katas themselves now, especially in Shotokan. Taikyoku kata is somewhat a relic, I learned it on a special Dan course.

Shotokan have the basic kata Kihon, straight into Heian Shodan, Heian Nidan, Heian Sandan etc.

Interesting. Our dojo does Taikyoku 1 pretty much every class. Even advanced classes. We use it to warm up and get ourselves in kata mode, so to speak. For as many times as I've done it, and as truly simple as it is, I can still improve. Sometimes I feel my balance isn't quite right on turns, sometimes I don't pivot my front foot enough on turns, my stance my be too narrow on some steps, etc. The old "ren ma" mentality.

[hammer]

Interesting. Our dojo does Taikyoku 1 pretty much every class. Even advanced classes. We use it to warm up and get ourselves in kata mode, so to speak. For as many times as I've done it, and as truly simple as it is, I can still improve. Sometimes I feel my balance isn't quite right on turns, sometimes I don't pivot my front foot enough on turns, my stance my be too narrow on some steps, etc. The old "ren ma" mentality.

Might be difference in styles, but when we do kata we always do Taikyoku sono Ichi and Taikyoku sono San (we do Taikyoku sono Ni sometimes but not always). While they seem basic on the surface, there is a lot of good stuff in them...I'm still working on getting all of the stance transitions right.

Just curious...how is the Kyokushin version of Kokutsu Dachi different? That's all I know at this point, my previous style (TKD) has an L-stance which I keep going back to when I get tired or lazy.