What's the difference?

[amolao]

Is So Bak Do & Tang Soo Do the same art?

[sensei8]

Well...I'd say...No, they're not!

They both might be kin in the scope of lineage and all that, but I'd say that they both have their own methodologies as well as their own ideology.

Imho!!

[DWx]

I'm assuming we are we talking about modern Soo Bahk Do and not ancient Subak?

In short I think the answer is yes though I would say all Soo Bahk Do is Tang Soo Do but not all Tang Soo Do is Soo Bahk Do as Tang Soo Do as we know it was developed from Hwang Kee's Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan.

There are guys on the forum more knowledgeable than me on this and someone like Luther_Unleashed could offer better insight.

[truejim]

Here's my take...

They're very similar, but they're not the same thing.

Hwang Kee developed his style of martial art, which he eventually came to call Tang Soo Do, from the 1940s onward. Sometime around 1960 he read the ancient Korean martial arts text the Muye Dobo Tongji and decided he wanted to incorporate some of the principles he learned from that text into his martial art. Having done so, he then renamed his martial art Soo Bahk Do.

So Tang Soo Do is a predecessor to Soo Bahk Do, and understandably enough they're very similar.

You can read more about that here: http://taekwondo.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Taekwondo

[sensei8]

Then there's this...

http://soobahkdo.com/is-tang-soo-do-the-same-as-soo-bahk-do/

[truejim]

It's interesting that that webpage lists Tang Soo Do, Hwa Soo Do, and Soo Bahk Do as all deriving from Moo Duk Kwan, but as I understand it, in all the splinering that took places, there's also a portion of Moo Duk Kwan that went on to practice Kukkiwon/WTF-style taekwondo.

[Luther unleashed]

Research can be challenging, and although informative it's sometimes a different truth then lies in a real do-jang.

To me they are the same. As I practiced Tang Soo Do, and my instructors refered to it as TSD and visiting instructors wore TSD on their backs, it was clearly Soo bahk do and in some do-jang literature it was refered to as Soo bahk do. What I'm saying is that although the history has some differences, in all places this is not today's truth!

There is a thread for this

[sensei8]

Research can be challenging, and although informative it's sometimes a different truth then lies in a real do-jang.

To me they are the same. As I practiced Tang Soo Do, and my instructors refered to it as TSD and visiting instructors wore TSD on their backs, it was clearly Soo bahk do and in some do-jang literature it was refered to as Soo bahk do. What I'm saying is that although the history has some differences, in all places this is not today's truth!

There is a thread for this

Solid post!! The bold type above spoke in volumes!!

[Luther unleashed]

Well, I mean so any schools are so different anyways, it's really crazy. In the end some research will be true about some schools and not so much others. For the history sake it is widely stated that Soo Bahk Do is its own martial art separate from TSD. All I'm really saying I guess is in today's martial arts society so much of it blends together. I think the Bruce Lee era ser the tone for this.