Let's talk Jion

[Davis]

As I understand it, Jion, Jitte and Jiin, the temple katas, were used defending against blunt weapons. I am curious to see how this thread develops. I have always found them rather pinan-like and basic. It seems hard to find subtlety in them, they seem like a combination of basic movements. They are required for Shito Ryu Shodan, alongside Bassai Dai and pinan Godan. As such, I always had the impression, like Wanshu, that they were for training basics.

[cathal]

On the surface I agree basics are seen. I just see more areas to apply different bunkai than the heian/pinan katas. I believe it adds a bit more to them.

[pers]

Jion was not one of my most favourite katas although I never disliked it as such but prefared other katas like Kanku dai and kanku sho and Enpi and Hangetsu more ,this one never got my attention like others ,but it is a great kata .

I particulary like the last two moves , in general whenever I do those big 4 I try to them as dynamic and fast as possible .