Anyone train Daido Juku Kudo?

[chrissyp]

I finally found a Kyokushin/ Mas Oyama karate school in my area, and I noticed they teach Kudo....

Can someone who's trained this style enlighten me on it? Is it more than just a MMA variant with a Kyokushin base and helmets?

I'm gonna go to trial class, and i'm just wondering if I should expect anything different compared to any other MMA school/system.

[Hawkmoon]

Hello Chrissyp ... i don't but I do see an appeal in this style of combat!

... Is it more than just a MMA variant with a Kyokushin base and helmets?

To be honest the traditionalist in me says "Yes I'd say so", less rage monster types would take this art up IMO!

Its more like the real fight world be than pure karate or pure judo fight is, and the traditionalist in me sees an honour code I understand/recognize,

http://www.daidojuku.com/eng/news/2014/detail/14009.html

but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVOw7KvS1MI

... I could be wrong!

Seems there are a few rage monsters here as well!

Looks to be a fair alternative to MMA, reminds me (or at least it satisfies my imagination) of what the original Kyokushin/Oyama Karate classes were like"back in the day".

http://www.daidojuku.com/eng/index.html

[Harkon72]

There we go, the argument that wearing head guards makes the fighting even more dangerous. There no control here, none. It looks good, it has none of the etiquette of traditional Kayokoshin Kumite, a style for tough guys, oh yes. I hope the associations that run it are honourable or one sad fact will always run true; When you are on top of your game, they will love you. But if you get injured, they will forget about you in a week. Be careful guys.

[Hawkmoon]

... wearing head guards makes the fighting even more dangerous. ...

There no control here, none....

... It looks good, it has none of the etiquette of traditional Kayokoshin Kumite ....

... a style for tough guys, oh yes. ...

... I hope the associations that run it are honourable...

As a South African friend of mine would say:

"100%!"

Its odd to me how the wearing of protection , any sort of protection seems to make a person/fighter more reckless!

Don't get me wrong I get the 'it doesn't hurt as much' reality, no I mean the less guarded, less mobile full on 'march' into battle ..the hooligan mind set that comes into play;

eg;

"I'm big and hard I can take anything you throw at me!!"

Call them Animals or rage monsters it is what it is, well that's not as profound as it is intended to be, it brings a real example of what is being discussed in another thread in the forum, teachers and mind set and so on.

(This one:

http://www.karateforums.com/a-sensei-s-personality-and-attitude-vt47744.html)

The rage monster/tough guys are being promoted, fed on ego (and beginners I'd wager) and so on to perform, and do well, the ART it is, or is trying to be is clearly lost on them!

(The art is IMHO being dropped from it if this is the best of the best .. as it were: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVOw7KvS1MI)

It is still a acceptable alternative to MMA in my mind (but that the traditionalist in me), the web site and what is reports and offers is respectful, aggressive by definition, but still a combat system close to what its trying to replicate with an honour code! that makes it a worthy offering, but its interpretation (ie; the reset of the worlds adoption of it ) is, well, to be honest clearly being lost in translation!

One of the guys here (at work) discussed this with me yesterday (he spotted what I watching and came over) he is from that part of the world was saying it was all the rage in the former eastern block countries back in 2000, but the aggressive approach and the sudden explosion of none far eastern DAN grades (masters and so on) spoilt it and its popularity has dropped a great deal.

Maybe it needs time to mature, to grow and maybe a obvious focus on kihon, proper public demonstration etc more focus on basics to draw the warriors to it and not the berserker?