bob Posted October 1, 2002 Posted October 1, 2002 How do you do a sleeper hold properly? I tried in a fight but did not get them to pass out.
Ground Shark Posted October 2, 2002 Posted October 2, 2002 When u say sleeper hold i assume ur talking about a vascular choke, which is a choke in which u cut off blood flow to ur opponents brain and he passes out. There are many dude, btu i again, assume ur talking about the rear interlock choke where you: -put one arm around ur opponents neck -grab ur upper bicep or lower shoulder wit that hand -use other hand to press head forward -flex ur biceps and try and bring ur arms in tight hope i helped "Roses are red,violets are blue,I will always TAP you!The fights not overtill I win SUCKA""
bob Posted October 2, 2002 Author Posted October 2, 2002 Yeh thanks that helped can this be dangerous done for too long you say it cuts off the blood i thought it cut off the air
Bon Posted October 2, 2002 Posted October 2, 2002 No, it cuts the flow of blood off. If you can't get under the guy's chin, apply it across their jaw, it's really powerful choke. Make sure you don't have your hand of the non-choking arm up too high on their head, 'cause they can pull your hand off. If you release it immediately, as soon as they pass out, they'll come back 'round pretty quickly with no damage done to them. If you hold it after they've passed out (about 10-15 seconds), you can cause brain damage and I think you have to hold it for 3-5min to kill them. There are methods of trying to revive them, but there's no evidence it works better than laying them on their side. If it's just you and the other guy with no one else around, lay them on their side and make a run for it. Personally, I wouldn't lay them on their side, I'd hit 'em a couple of times so that when they wake up, they'll remember it. It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
bob Posted October 2, 2002 Author Posted October 2, 2002 How long should it be put on for before they pass out?
JerryLove Posted October 2, 2002 Posted October 2, 2002 No, it cuts the flow of blood off. If I read my anatomy book right, the interior corotid (near the spine) carries most of the blood. The cutting of the exterior corotid seems to cause a pressure imbalance that tricks the brain into cutting off it's own blood supply. But I could be misunderstanding the biology a bit.If you release it immediately, as soon as they pass out, they'll come back 'round pretty quickly with no damage done to them. Not really true. Any asphyxia of the brain kills brain cells; so does getting drunk.How long should it be put on for before they pass out? If it's done right, from 4-11 seconds. Depends on what they are doing. https://www.clearsilat.com
non_karate_kid Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 is there another way to make them pass out?? even in like a street fight or someting?
Jack Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 I would recommend that you learn choking from a qualified instructor, and do a fair amount of research on how it should be applied. You don't want to be killing someone with a choke. Bon, I have heard it may take only 10 seconds of choking after the opponent has passed out to kill them, and 5 seconds for brain damage. You should release pretty quickly after rendering them unconscious either way. JackCurrently 'off' from formal MA trainingKarateForums.com
lister14 Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 just about the terminology used... 'choke' / 'strangle' correct me if i'm wrong but i always thought when cutting off the 'air supply' it's called a choke, but when cutting off the 'blood supply' it's called a strangle hold... "knowledge speaks, wisdom listens" (J. Hendrix)
truforlife465 Posted January 16, 2003 Posted January 16, 2003 what is the longest that person can pass out for that The Sleeper hold Steve-o
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