Kyokushinkai kihon

[Hawkmoon]

Many posts and chats here as else where talk about how Shotokan and Kyokushinkai are alike.

Some things I've read and sadly even a few things I've had to endure and/or experience show the level of passion some have when the topic of conversation takes on a history perspective. Then to move into one system 'copying' the other and what must it be like to be 'only a copy'.

Its no secret, one does owe much of its foundation to the other, as all MA systems owe there existence to much older Chinese arts!

Anyway I came across this a while back and have from time to time wondered if there is a Shotokan version (as it were) or any other art for that matter.

https://www.karatetest.com

Do I use the above?

Yes as a visual reminder a way of keeping the name and shape clear in my head. (as well as in the right kyu grade as well.

(Kind'a helpful, after a 15 year break ..ye' old brain matter is not what it used to be!)

[sensei8]

While they both might seem similar, imho, they're worlds apart. Hence, that's why they're not being called Shotokankyokushinkai/Kyokushinkaishotokan.

[CredoTe]

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Its no secret, one does owe much of its foundation to the other, as all MA systems owe there existence to much older Chinese arts!

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All oriental MA systems owe a portion of their existence to Chinese arts. Most oriental MA systems also have a native element to them, as well. For instance, before it was known as "Karate", Okinawans called their art To-te (we all know this, I think...). Before it was To-te, before the Chinese influence, it was simply called "Te (Ti)". This art of Te (Ti) is Okinawan in origin; yes, Okinawa's close proximity to Taiwan gives speculation that Te (Ti) had some Tai Chi influence, but it is Okinawan nonetheless.

Sorry to nit-pick you...lol I only intend clarification...

[Hawkmoon]

no worries ...no worries at all CredoTe!

I enjoy history, in general, I'm no historian and openly accept I have more holes in my 'knowledge' than swiss cheese does.

Sensei8, yes absolutely, sadly being on the receiving end of such ... 'spiteful' chats, as I moved form one dojo to another it something I came to realize quickly and turn into initially tolerance (not a good step) but moved to respectful understanding and so patience as I continued to train as best I could where I could.

During my absence form main stream training, the discovery of that site and what I had experienced when I was in this or that dojo, like I say it just made me more appreciative (and as a result more respectful) of other systems and how they do 'stuff'.

Even today in my dojo I feel I am ridiculed for working with other systems for as long as I did. Much of what I currently endure in my dojo stems from the Kyokushin mind set of fight serious focus, the serious approach to fighting Kyokushin has.

Even when Kyokushin was all I had ever done and was only doing, I looked upon the karate I was doing as an art form not a religion or a new and better way of life, or a system that would trigger a cultural shift in me or my life.

A hobby, a way of staying fit, keeping a strong body and even stronger mind to push to endure to be a better person.

To learn how to defend my self or others (as I later learned and took to heart), not to make me a better fighter, a better bully or some superman of the security services, just a better person.

This site https://www.karatetest.com and what it offers does remind me of the film 'The Karate kid' and the scene where Larusso is practicing in front of a TV.

Even then I thought a nice idea to practice with a visual 'q', but bad idea to do so without real training. Hence this site and with me working out in a dojo again is something I feel is good, and wonder if there is some other 'like' sites that we can share and take a look at !