Adamantis Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 First, let me just state I don´t want to start a Seagal debate here - obviously people have very mixed feelings about the guy.I just wonder about his style you see in the movies and various youtube videos. I know he´s an aikido master, but there´s lots of strikes and kicks in his movies. Some of his strikes just look like slaps, and he keeps doing these distinctive motions where his arms would cross, i have no idea? Since there are practically no strikes/kicks in aikido, I just wonder where he got it from. Are there for instance any karate styles that looks like that? Or did he just make it up himself?As an example (although maybe not a good one), here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesefrysamurai Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 from what I know Steven Segal is the real deal in Aikido.The rest of that stuff is probably choregraphed to look good Nothing Worth Having Is Easily Obtained - ESPECIALLY RANK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantis Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yes, I think he´s a 7. dan.I´ve heard he started his career with karate, but I´m not sure if there´s anything specific in his movies. I don't know if the sparring in the video is real effective stuff but it looks like he has fast hands and is good at finding openings, I wonder where he picked that up? Given that nothing in the video has anything to do with aikido... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Practically doesn't mean none; therefore, Aikido does have kicks/strikes, just enough to be effective in set-ups and the like. It's possible that Segal has done some extensive cross training with other styles of the MA, and in that, it's possible he's learnt other things while being in Law Enforcement. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantis Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 Strikes - we have atemi to create openings, but they are very basic , straight forward punching.Kicks - very very very rare...He has definitely trained in other arts, so I was wondering from which he picked up his sparring style. I have very little knowledge about karate, so I was wondering if maybe some particular style bears any resemblance, as I know he started off with karate?To be honest, I think it looks pretty cool, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassaiguy Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Ueshiba once said, "Ninety percent of Aikido is atemi." Maybe he's just showing the strikes that most aikidoka leave out of their practice in order to work on waza. "Honour, not honours." ~ Sir Richard Francis Burtonhttp://oronokarate.weebly.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantis Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 That´s a clever answer. Sadly we´ve practiced way too little atemi in our class, but from what I´ve seen in more advanced aikido videos, it looks the same as what Seagal does. And it would make sense since Seagal´s main style is aikido.I should really look more into atemi, I think it´s very relevant, and the main reason I started doing karate was that we very rarely practice strikes/atemi in our dojo.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes, he's extremely talented at Aikido. A lot of his other stuff is choreographed for movies. He did study Shotokan for a short time, but I've never seen anything stating his rank, suggesting it may have been below black belt. Also, I couldn't help but post this video. It makes me laugh: "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantis Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 I´ve heard he holds several black belts, karate one of them, but who knows... at least it says everywhere that he started training under a karate master.The striking stuff in his movies looks the same as aikido atemi, and I recognize a lot of the throws/locks. Wouldn´t it be awesome if there were more running scenes in his newest movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnASE Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I had a vague memory of Fumio Demura mentioning during a conversation that Steven Seagal trained with him for a little while as a teenager. Results from a quick internet search seems to support this. I didn't bother following any links to see how long he trained, so I have no idea how much of Seagal's striking could have come from those days. John - ASE Martial Arts Supplyhttps://www.asemartialarts.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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