hayesjames82 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Just curious, I thought that there were many martial arts that incorporated joint locks besides Jiu-Jitsu and grappling martial arts.Thanks for taking the time to read. Edited September 9, 2013 by hayesjames82 When you understand a technique, you know a technique. When you understand a concept, you know a thousand techniques.
sensei8 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 First things first...Welcome to Karateforums!!Tuite!!Google "Tuite" and a myrid of information should help you to start finding just what you're looking for!! Some of the information will be good and some will be bad no matter the media. **Proof is on the floor!!!
Wastelander Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Welcome to the forums!In addition to searching "tuite" as sensei8 suggests, you can also search "tuidi" which is the Okinawan pronunciation of the same word, or "torite" which is the Japanese pronunciation of the same word. "Karamidi" refers to some very similar concepts. "Kansetsu-waza" is the Japanese word for joint locks and is commonly used to describe joint locks in jujutsu and judo.Unfortunately, since there are so many types and ways of joint locking, it would be impossible for us (or anyone else, really) to list and diagram them all! Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
CredoTe Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Another that's worth searching for is "tegumi", which is the grappling, locking, etc art that's a part of Te (Ti). Remember the Tii!In Life and Death, there is no tap-out...
ps1 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Depends on a few things. 1. Which "name" are you looking for? English, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Portugese ect...2. Once you have that, you could start looking into books for BJJ, Judo, Yudo, Chin Na ect...As far as online resources, https://www.judoinfo.com is a good one, although it looks like it's undergoing some updates right now.There are millions of grappling videos on youtube and websites galore. Books:http://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Applications-Shaolin-Chin-Practical/dp/094087136X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1378507572&sr=8-3&keywords=chin+nahttp://www.amazon.com/Kodokan-Judo-Essential-Founder-Jigoro/dp/156836539X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378507609&sr=8-1&keywords=Judohttp://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Aikido&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AAikidoGood luck. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
sensei8 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Depends on a few things. 1. Which "name" are you looking for? English, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Portugese ect...2. Once you have that, you could start looking into books for BJJ, Judo, Yudo, Chin Na ect...As far as online resources, https://www.judoinfo.com is a good one, although it looks like it's undergoing some updates right now.There are millions of grappling videos on youtube and websites galore. Books:http://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Applications-Shaolin-Chin-Practical/dp/094087136X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1378507572&sr=8-3&keywords=chin+nahttp://www.amazon.com/Kodokan-Judo-Essential-Founder-Jigoro/dp/156836539X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378507609&sr=8-1&keywords=Judohttp://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Aikido&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AAikidoGood luck.Good ones!! **Proof is on the floor!!!
hayesjames82 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 what are the names and definition of the following 12 locks ? also the following 11 locks with the 2nd and 6th being the same4th and 8th being the samethe number 3 lock being referred on the video as a can openerthe number 10 sometimes being called a goose neckand the number 11 lock being a finger lock. When you understand a technique, you know a technique. When you understand a concept, you know a thousand techniques.
Kusotare Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 what are the names and definition of the following 12 locks ? also the following 11 locks with the 2nd and 6th being the same4th and 8th being the samethe number 3 lock being referred on the video as a can openerthe number 10 sometimes being called a goose neckand the number 11 lock being a finger lock. Different systems will call them different things (even within very traditional schools)Broadly speaking, all of the methods shown are known as kansetsu-waza in Japanese jujutsu.Hand and arm manipulation are referred to as kote/ude- gatame!Katame in this context means to entangle.K. Usque ad mortem bibendum!
cheesefrysamurai Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 i loved japanese Jujutsu for the joint locks.Korean Hapkido is fairly similar.Chinese Chin-Na also is a grappling art Nothing Worth Having Is Easily Obtained - ESPECIALLY RANK
ps1 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 what are the names and definition of the following 12 locks ? First, he is naming them. I'm not sure the naming convention he's using. But he's calling the moves out by name. I'm giving you the Aiki Jujitsu names for them here. Also, my spelling/pronunciation may be a little different than others. 1. Sankajo- There are several variations. Any wrist lock circling the pinky to the body is generally referred to as Sankajo. 2. Nikajo- One of many variations. Though you would prefer the elbow to be bent 90 degrees. Also referred to as kote gatame 3. Sankajo...again, the pinky is being twisted to the body. 4. Not a gooseneck- Again, a variation of Sankajo 5. Kamakubi- Goose neck 6. ude garami- known as Kimura in BJJ 7. ude garami variation 2. Known as Americana in BJJ 8. Juji gatame variation 9. Don't know the name here 10. Juji gatame variation 11. Juji gatame variation 12. Juji gatame variation In terms of the Juji gatame references. It may be more accurate, in these instances to call them ude hishigi since your're not technically pinning the opponent down. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
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