JusticeZero Posted July 14, 2013 Author Posted July 14, 2013 Shugyo!!That means that students wear whatever the CI dictates overall. However, the CI can make any exception per the basis of each individual student.The concern is that half of the students, based on their internal plumbing that they have no control over, have to do "Shugyo" every class, and the other half do not, and then the half that is doing "Shugyo" at that very moment on top of the class are compared to the people who are not at that moment engaged in a session of "Shugyo". That's like complaining that one person (who just ran two miles) looks more listless and tired than the person who got a ride in the back of a car - therefore, the person who got a ride must be a better athlete! "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
Harlan Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Any woman that thinks training with '3 layers' (bra, t-shirt and gi top) is too hot has a surprise in store at around 40-50. You can train naked...and still be 'too hot'. Lately, when I hear the guys complaining how hot/muggy/sweaty a day is...I just shrug. Leaves fall.
JohnASE Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 From a purely aesthetic standpoint, however, I have to say I like the idea of requiring t-shirts for everyone if only because I've taken more sweaty, hairy chests to the face than I care to think about. Judo is an up close and personal martial art, isn't it? I took it for a few years as a kid. John - ASE Martial Arts Supplyhttps://www.asemartialarts.com
sensei8 Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Shugyo!!That means that students wear whatever the CI dictates overall. However, the CI can make any exception per the basis of each individual student.The concern is that half of the students, based on their internal plumbing that they have no control over, have to do "Shugyo" every class, and the other half do not, and then the half that is doing "Shugyo" at that very moment on top of the class are compared to the people who are not at that moment engaged in a session of "Shugyo". That's like complaining that one person (who just ran two miles) looks more listless and tired than the person who got a ride in the back of a car - therefore, the person who got a ride must be a better athlete!I will weed out those students who aren't willing to embrace Shugyo in their MA training because I don't want, nor do I need, students who aren't willing and ready to lay their MA training on the line; there must be a purpose for MA training, imho, not just to join some club and say that they once trained in the MA for the heck of it. **Proof is on the floor!!!
JusticeZero Posted July 18, 2013 Author Posted July 18, 2013 They aren't "embracing" the heat, but may be consigned to it by uniform restrictions. Furthermore, it is un-noticed. Others do not have that requirement, and as it is unnoticed, no value is given for doing it. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
CTTKDKing Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Hmmm, seems a bit excessive. My gym requires uniforms for traditional classes and we offer Gi and no-Gi BJJ classes (just giving an example of a more modern system), but as long as you are wearing proper protective gear most wear what they want in the Muay Thai, and/or MMA classes. Its more about comfort levels of the people than anything. There's a girl in the Muay Thai class that wears Tight shorts and a sports bra when it's really hot. She's not trying to show off or anything, it's just because it's non binding clothing that doesn't get in the way and is all sweat wicking material. It's fine, and maybe it's just my gym but people aren't there to gawk at each other, they are there to train. Might be different at a conventional gym with treadmills and weight machines but we all seem fairly like minded when training martial arts. It might help that all our classes are separated by age bracket. Youth, teen and adult. She might cause problems with the less mature teens I don't know. I just never thought of it as a big deal. "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering."
sensei8 Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 They aren't "embracing" the heat, but may be consigned to it by uniform restrictions. Furthermore, it is un-noticed. Others do not have that requirement, and as it is unnoticed, no value is given for doing it.Don't train students in the heat dressed in full gi UNLESS ones taking the necessary steps to protect their students well being by offering a means for them to hydrate themselves, rest breaks, and the like.I'm not a mean and uncaring instructor who cares very little for my/any student. Yes, I'll push them to the edge of the unknown and beyond, but, I recognize things that are more important than the MA; life is more important!! I don't mindlessly drill any/my students to the ground, and because I don't, I push Shugyo only until Shugyo no longer warrants me to do so.Awareness!! **Proof is on the floor!!!
CredoTe Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 In our dojo, we allow our students to wear whatever undershirts they want with a couple of restrictions: cannot have any profanity or obscenity to minors on it. The only requirement of our lady students is that they have a sports bra or similar undergarment under their gis. As for myself, I typically wear Under Armour or similar wicking compression shirt because I'm a sweat ball...For our students that have built up their endurance and want to sweat more, we encourage them (but don't require) to wear a thicker t-shirt or similar undershirt, or purchase a heavy gi. Remember the Tii!In Life and Death, there is no tap-out...
andym Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I'm sure you can get plain tee-shirt type tops in modern breathable fabrics. Expensive, maybe by comparison, but a good alternative if available. If you believe in an ideal. You don't own it ; it owns you.
JusticeZero Posted July 28, 2013 Author Posted July 28, 2013 The "breathable" fabrics are good insulation; I wore one "breathable" shirt under the light sweater I wore under the thin jacket I wore when riding eight miles in midwinter in Alaska. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
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